Your reply:
The agenda is seed. The dozers and heavy equipment carry weeds. The wackjobs fear them for that reason and rightly so. The problem with that idea is that boots, backpacks, tents, and tarps carry weeds too. The net effect of all that caution is to make things worse by increasing the acreage and number of sites exposed to entry by firefighters from all over the country.
So due to their fear of weeds, they will let 200,000 acres burn up instead using dozers to break in some real fire lanes. With these big fires and the fuel build up, manpower is not enough to contain let alone control these fires. Heavy equipment is needed! These slimey bastards are even worse than I have thought.
Your final part of your reply:
Fuel management always was the correct tool and these turkeys are now in over their heads.
They are obviously over their heads and have placed a large part of this country's population and forests in a Clear and Present Danger.
The al Qaeda terrorists must just set back and say go Club Sierra! You are so effective in harming America/Americans!
Yyyyup, but that's only part of it. It's the reason the wack-jobs on the ground fear the dozers.
With these big fires and the fuel build up, manpower is not enough to contain let alone control these fires.
Yyyup, they don't want them contained.
These slimey bastards are even worse than I have thought.
Yyyyyup. Worse, and it starts at the top.
Here's the message I've been telling everybody here for a couple of years now: International Paper, Georgia Pacific, Weyerhauser Group, Crown Paper, et al. want to make money on their forests. They have forests all over the world: Morocco, New Zealand, Canada, Eastern Europe, Russia... The world's forests produce more lumber, paper, and pulp than anybody can use at least at a price they want to get for their goods. To get high prices the big guys need a shortage.
It works just like the California Power Crisis Dave.
You shouldn't be surprised since the game is driven by the class of people with the lobbyists to get it done (you do know that Mark Rey's last job was as a lobbyist with the American Forest & Paper Association?). The folks in charge of the USFS are more than happy to oblige. They can make both the corporate world and the environmentalists happy, and they don't have to risk their people's necks any more than they have to (when a firefighter dies it makes for bad press). It was no different under Dombeck. It's democracy at its finest.
That's what a socialized commons can do.
Henry is right. Private property is the answer. He just doesn't know how to make it happen. The problem is: How should the land be managed for all its attributes so that a guy can make a buck taking care of nature and provide the range of products the public demands?
That's what I created Dave. It's not that radical because it can start on a small scale and grow. The good news is that for the system to optimize the market will be too complex for the big guys or the government to handle. It's a good niche for the small property owner, farmer, and rancher, although those roles will start to overlap as the system matures. It's an abstract idea, and is hard to generalize (as my book sadly proves), but in microcosm it is very simple.
I really don't understand why it's been so hard a sell. What's the alternative?