[gdani]

We have some TESTIMONY from MANY witnesses that this JESUS fellow ROSE FROM THE DEAD! Now, these words are either true, false or madness - I see no other choice

We also have "testimony" that this Jesus fella turned water into wine, walked on water, fed the masses with a few loaves of bread & fish, was born of a virgin and raised the dead.

However, we have no independently verifiable proof.

[Elsie]

However, we have no independently verifiable proof.

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You aren't LISTENING, are you?

Just what would be "independently verifiable proof" to you?

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Last night, on TV, footage from many sources showed that a couple of planes had collided in Europe.

Was ANY of that 'proof' (to you) that such an event had actually happened?