Skip to comments.Telecom Equipment Project by the Chinese for Taliban after 9-11
Posted on 07/03/2002 7:31:13 AM PDT by honway
Revelations that the Taliban was working on a telecom surveillance equipment with the help of the Chinese in a Bangalore-based project actually cleared by the Government of India has caused red faces in the countrys security establishment.A senior government official in fact said that India did not want to upset the Chinese government but conceded that India might ask 300 Chinese software engineers to leave the country. Official sources said that since all the requisite permission had been obtained there was no question of deportation. The official agreed it was a serious security lapse given the developing situation in Afghanistan.The tip-off apparently came from Western Intelligence sources but it was later verified by Indian Intelligence agencies. A final view on how to deal with the situation is yet to be taken.
The Chinese telecom software company had brought in the telecom engineers from China in September on six months visa to ensure total secrecy over the project. No Indian apparently is directly involved in the project.
Please consider why would the Taliban need 300 Chinese software engineers working in secret on their telecommunication surveillance program post 9-11 considering the status of their infrastucure.
Chinese firm gives govt the jitters
(R. Krishnan )
10 December 2001
More than a year after it commenced operations, the Ministry of External Affairs has gathered evidence to suggest that a Chinese software firm's business deals may be prejudicial to India's security interests. Top official sources confirmed that the government is perturbed by the fact that the software exported by the Bangalore-based Huawai Technologies may have helped Pakistan and the Taliban regime in the years 2000 and 2001 to upgrade their telecommunication network.
The government has also got credible information that the company helped Iraq improve its military communication systems. A detailed note to this effect has been prepared with inputs from various agencies. The Cabinet Committee on Security is expected to discuss the matter once Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee returns from Japan.
(Srinivasa Prasad and R. Krishnan )
11 December 2001
A tip-off from agencies in the US had alerted Indian authorities about the activities of the Bangalore-based software firm Huawei Technologies. Citing a note compiled from intelligence inputs that is to come up for discussion when the Cabinet Committee on Security meets next, the Hindustan Times reported that the firm may have had business dealings with Pakistan, the Taliban and Iraq which were prejudicial to India's security interests. Central agencies had put Huawei on the watchlist well before the September 11 attacks, but the revelation seems to have taken the Karnataka government by surprise.
State information technology secretary Vivek Kulkarni dispatched officials to Huawei to question senior executives about the company's business dealings. The Karnataka government hasn't come up with anything but senior software professionals attribute Huawei's "unusual growth" to the firm's "unusual activities" and known disrespect for intellectual property rights. The company, formed in 1988, claims total sales of US$ 2.66 billion in 2000, an increase of almost 80 per cent over the previous year's US$ 1.5 billion.
a) December 2001, article appears.
b) February 21, 2002, this article from "People's Daily"
Bush Visit Another Milestone: U.S. Ambassador The visit of U.S. President George W. Bush to China will be "another important milestone" in building the cooperative and constructive relationship between the United States and China, said U.S. Ambassador to China Clark T. Randt Jr. in an interview at the eve of Bush's upcoming China visit. President Bush's China visit will coincidentally take place on the same day as former President Richard Nixon's historical "ice-breaking" visit three decades ago. "We are very delighted that the President could schedule his visit on this momentous day," Randt said, noting it is also important to know that this is the first time a sitting American President has ever set his foot on China twice within four months during his term in office, a movement that clearly indicates the importance President Bush attaches to the bilateral relationship.
c) June 2002 article on aQ cyberattacks (already know that China (computer geek/super hacker clubs in China enlisted by the PLA) will form the bulwark of cyberattacks against the USA
What is wrong with this picture? Why all the touchy/feely business with China by our leaders, all the while they, the PRC, shoot down our naval surveillance aircraft in international airpace and also work with the enemy Taliban during the exact time in winter our own US boys are hot in the Afghan field taking 'incoming'. Disgusting. What gives?
The Silicon Tong
( Ashok Parthasarthi)
The Times of India
21 January 2002
A while ago, several national dailies carried reports about the government having discovered that the Bangalore-based Chinese company Huawei Technologies may have helped Pakistan and the Taliban upgrade their telecom network with both hardware and software during 2000 and 2001. The reports go on to state that, according to intelligence sources, all the companys 300 software professionals are Chinese and that the chief executive of the company was formerly an officer of the Peoples Liberation Army of China
Also attempting to set up a beachead for American market in Latin America, through Mexico, etc. Per Mexican press on Huawai:
"Anticipándose a la apertura de las telecomunicaciones de China, Huawei Technologies dirige su mirada hacia los mercados emergentes en Europa, África y América Latina, donde México ocupa un lugar preponderante"
(Hey, why aren't more Freepers interested in this thread?)
I don't know. In my opinion, the information in the linked Washington Post article(all 7 pages)"Cyber Attacks by Al Qaeda Feared" along with the China-Taliban-Iraq post 9-11 connection is the most important story I have ever found on the Internet.
Counterterrorism analysts have known for years that al Qaeda prepares for attacks with elaborate "targeting packages" of photographs and notes. But, in January, U.S. forces in Kabul, Afghanistan, found something new.
A computer seized at an al Qaeda office contained models of a dam, made with structural architecture and engineering software, that enabled the planners to simulate its catastrophic failure. Bush administration officials, who discussed the find, declined to say whether they had identified a specific dam as a target.
The FBI reported that the computer had been running Microstran, an advanced tool for analyzing steel and concrete structures; Autocad 2000, which manipulates technical drawings in two or three dimensions; and software "used to identify and classify soils," which would assist in predicting the course of a wall of water surging downstream.
To destroy a dam physically would require "tons of explosives," Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff said a year ago. To breach it from cyberspace is not out of the question. In 1998, a 12-year-old hacker, exploring on a lark, broke into the computer system that runs Arizona's Roosevelt Dam. He did not know or care, but federal authorities said he had complete command of the SCADA system controlling the dam's massive floodgates.
Roosevelt Dam holds back as much as 1.5 million acre-feet of water, or 489 trillion gallons. That volume could theoretically cover the city of Phoenix, down river, to a height of five feet. In practice, that could not happen. Before the water reached the Arizona capital, the rampant Salt River would spend most of itself in a flood plain encompassing the cities of Mesa and Tempe -- with a combined population of nearly a million.
The words he hears make him freeze. It is pure Arabic, with no English and is one voice speaking to a second voice that keeps saying "Tayeb." Tayeb in Arabic means more than OK, it means acceptance or recommendation, "I got it."
"The first voice had a thick, harsh accent from the Gulf Region. It could have been from Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Abu Dabu or Iraq," Hamdan said firmly.
The exact words - words that affected room holiday reservations in Las Vegas were:
"We are in the city of corruption. We are in the city of gambling and prostitution. And they are talking about freedom. We are going to hit them on their day of freedom." He repeats this twice during 60-90 seconds.
"In the background, I heard more people, and another Arabic voice could be heard yelling, 'It's enough! Stop it! It's enough!'". Hamdan implies that someone realized that his loud mouth associate was spilling the beans over a cell phone.
Mr. Hamdan was frozen in fear and began to sweat.
I just surfed and read at length the Chinese language site of Huawei (I read Chinese at advanced level). My, these buzzards are indeed all over the place.....
More info for FR. Perhaps someone can work the link function. Sorry the font is small. You get the idea, though.....
Thanks for the help. If this information is as important as I think it is, your contributions would be invaluable and appreciated.
The Chinese military is preparing to launch new "exploratory" cyber-attacks against U.S. defense and civilian computer networks and systems as part of Beijing's continuing efforts to level the playing field against the American military, according to a noted intelligence bulletin. Quoting Asian sources, the China Reform Monitor, or CRM a publication of the American Foreign Policy Council reported Wednesday that the attacks are scheduled to take place in early summer.
Something does not smell right in all of this.
Saying that bin Laden has traveled to China numerous times to meet with officials there, Thomas contends that "almost certainly he talked to them about obtaining" material to build weapons of mass destruction.
China's President Jiang Zemin, adds Thomas, waited three days to contact Bush about the Sept. 11 attack and told the U.S. president that, vis-à-vis the war on terrorism, China would find itself in a "difficult situation, given our well-known position of opposing any interference in the internal affairs of any country."
Washington sources say that Bush "gritted his teeth and said he would push on without China," Thomas wrote.
The author also cites what he calls the "happy parties in the streets of Beijing" following the 9-11 attacks.
"They're selling videos there with commentary saying, 'America had it coming,'" said Thomas. "Their message is: 'America can be defeated.'"
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