U.S. neighborhoods grow more crowded

USA Today ^ | 07/02/02 | Haya El Nasser

[FreedomFriend]

TRENTON, N.J.

[valkyrieanne]

Sounds like someone needs to get busy passing some zoning laws, and then *enforcing* them.

[robertpaulsen]

Six Killed in Van Crash; 33 Illegal Immigrants Were on Board

".... more than 1.5 persons per room is severely overcrowded."

1.5 persons per room is not overcrowding to this group.

[Slyfox]

Thanks for the info. Last summer we had an accident with our trailer in the middle of Iowa. While we were trying to get things in order I got into an interesting conversation with the owner of the tow shop. He said that they didn't have much crime in the area until the government decided they didn't have enough people on welfare living in the area so they moved in a bunch of them from some big city. He said it's gotten past the point of being just petty crime which they never had. He used to be able to just leave things locked and that would be it. But now, he's thinking of getting a dog to leave inside at night because they are starting to break into the stores and shops. In the middle of cornfield heaven. What a dang shame.

[nanny]

I have often suspected the government relocated people to small towns and middle America. In the small town where I used to live, I volunteered to help with the giveaway of powdered milk and cheese. That was essentially all they ever gave away. Somehow, I could not understand why anyone would stand in line for 2 or 3 hours to get a box of powdered milk and 5 pounds of cheese, but ---.

We were supposed to do some verification on these people. It consisted of seeing some form of identification and asking for their income, and listening to their untruths on that score. I was amazed at the number of people who lived in a one small apartment complex (government subsidized rent) who had out of state driver's license. It would not be an exaggeration to say 75% of them were from out of state, and not the same state. Now why would all those, mostly from the north, be in such a small town (4,000) and have no jobs?

[skeeter]

Santa Ana, Calif., a heavily Hispanic suburb 30 miles from Los Angeles, has tried unsuccessfully for years to stop overcrowding. When it tried to tighten occupancy standards from 10 to five in a one-bedroom apartment, courts ruled that local laws could not supersede state housing standards.

Thirty years ago Santa Ana was a charming So CA community with shady streets and a small town atmosphere. Today we're not supposed to notice that its become an overcrowded third world dump.

[timestax]

bttt

[FreedomFriend]

It's insane. The easiest thing to do would be to insist on assimilation. However, that might be culturally insensitive, and we can't do that, can we?

Another thing from that statement is the fact that I see it as another for relativism, of which the left is often a part of. For example, faith relativism, moral relativism, culture relativism, etc. Today, it is lving condition relativism.

Leftists are so braindead. If they didn't control much of the media, everyone would look upon them as the braindead individuals that they are.

[FreedomFriend]

Look at Boston. That's one of the most insane places.

[Carry_Okie]

Excuse me, but zoning laws are what made this problem.

[Joe Hadenuf]

What location are you referring to, if you don't mind me asking?

[Bigg Red]

"...said Cameron County Judge Gilberto Hinojosa"....because so many are undocumented, it's difficult to provide them with programs."

Hey, Judge Moron, here's a program: Deportation. They are called "illegals." Knock off the "undocumented" bull clinton, and do your job by getting these people the heck out of our country.

[FreedomFriend]

I think that a recent article that I posted explained why he may not want to deport them. Unfortunately, that article was deleted.

[Lizavetta]

i used to work for a housing agency (funded by HUD) the program called "moving to opportunity" or "regional opportunity counseling" was about courting landlords, who had property in the "nicer areas," to rent to section 8 recipients (who they would normally never rent to).

Ahh yes...section 8 housing courtesy of the government. Can you imagine trying to evict a section 8 tenant who had the backing of the government to protect them against "discrimination" (i.e. keeping their cleaning deposit for a trashed house would be discrimination)? When we had a rental we got a call from a lady on section 8 who wanted to move in with her unmarried daughter and her baby. Both on welfare, both going to the local university. I told her we wouldn't take a section 8 tenant, she asked why, and I told her it would be like paying myself the rent money since she was government sponsored. It also occurred to me, but I didn't say this to her, that someone who will not take care of themselves is not likely to take care of someone else's house.

[FreedomFriend]

You explained it so eloquently.

[FreedomFriend]

bump

[FreedomFriend]

Hmm, how did this happen? Describe the process of how it got that way, not to mention the visual blight of the area. It may be of importance to others to see if the same thing is happening in their communities.

[FreedomFriend]

Could it be the welfare system? However, doesn't the north have the same problem with welfare? Hmm. The only other thing that I can figure out is family, or perhaps a want to take over or influence the political structure of the town. Perhaps it was the All-American atmosphere. What do you think?

[FreedomFriend]

Since this seems to be the case, do you think that a suit can be brought against the government for disrupting peoples' retirement plans, not to mention assisting in the destruction of community life, aesthetics, etc. of any particular town. After all, if it is found to have negatively effected property values, shouldn't the government at least be responsible, being that it was not the natural free market cycle which effected that change. You could also see how much personal damage that is done to individuals as they work their whole lives, only to have what they worked for "tossed out into the garbage".

What's your opinion?

[FreedomFriend]

You've got to understand, it is all relative. Therefore, we must be more accepting of other cultures, regardless if they place unheard of demands on Americans at large, even to the degree of making us adjust to them.