Westerfield attorney's begin defense: Dusek STUNNED by Defense calling for Keith Stone. Barb next?

Union Trib ^ | July 2, 2002 | Union Trib

[BunnySlippers]

Too intellectual, you know. The proper term is "Fry him!!".

Better yet ... let a killer go!

[UCANSEE2]

I have to go soon, but I wanted to make sure and tell you this.

Thank you for being considerate and courteous in your discussion. Thank you for your willingness to listen to opposing views. I Hope I was open to yours. I hope I didn't get to sarcastic with you. If so, I apologize.

[luvbach1]

The following speculataion is based on what I've heard and read, except for what I made up!I do think she was murdered in the motor home. The blood evidence points to it.I think he was trying to find a remote spot when he got stuck in the sand. I think she was alive at that point. He wouldn't have killed her there not knowing how long he would be stranded. He then roamed around, by his own account, and circled back toward San Diego. The body was found off Hwy 79 near San Diego but I think the child was killed soon after W left the dunes in which he was stuck. The reason for this theory is that a cadaver dog gave a positive response to a outside storage bin.I reason that the body would have had to be in that container long enough to have left enough odor for the dog to detect.So-called cadaver dogs do detect the odor of decay decay but they will also respond to the odor of a live human. These are the same dogs that locate dead or injured in collapsed buildings, most notably at the WTC. I think the dog could have merely responded to the scent of a human being so the body may have been dumped as quickly as possible. No way to know unless evidence of decay can be detected in the storage compartment. I've heard no mention of that.

[RnMomof7]

No you have NOT said "I think"..or "in my opinion"..you have said that there is evidence..and there is NONE that this man is a molester, The porn on the computer does not make him a molester..that is not evidence that he molested anyone.

I am waiting to hear the defense explaination for the porn and the blood...till then IMHO he is innocent the State has not met it's burden of proof!

[UCANSEE2]

But they do have Danielle's prints and that's what matters.

THey do matter, but the question still is when did they get there. That would be the crux of the situation. If they got there after 1030pm Friday 02/01/02, DW looks GUILTY.

[nycgal]

Missed which one? Rats....tell me.

Go to the same site where you got the other photos and click on the "NECD ORIGINS" link.

Here's the url:
http://www.necd.net/naked.htm

[meadsjn]

If DEFENSE provides PROOF DW could not possibly have done this,...

I know you are just trying to make your point to someone who was pre-convinced against the defendant, but you've also inadvertently pointed out just how upside-down our system of justice has become.

Not only have we lost the presumption of innocence, we have even passed the point where the defendent must prove his innocence; he must also then beg for mercy from those who still demand (in spite of the proof of innocence) that he be hung.

I recently sat on a jury of which several women conceded there was a great deal of "reasonable doubt", yet they insisted that the benefit of that reasonable doubt should be in favor of the prosecution, contrary to the simply written jury instructions and definitions. Fortunately, they weren't willing to spend additional days in deliberation.

[Jaded]

LE did not show up until 10:00 AM or shortly before.

[UCANSEE2]

Well, Thank you. I will hold you to that.

Maybe we can have a decent debate after all. I take it you don't like Feldman? Any reason?

[luvbach1]

I can only explain the lack of evidence of his entry and removal of Danielle by the fact that he was careful and succeeding in not leaving evidence. Obviously someone removed her without leaving evidence, so why not him? We don't know how drunk he was,or whether he was drunk, do we? He left the bar/cafe earlier than the others so it's reasonable to assume he drank less. As for Danielle screaming, this would present same difficulty to any other abductor. Brutal as the perp must have been, he could have choked her into unconsciousness befor carrying her out.Again, the proof is that it did happen. You read my previous scenarios so you know the rest (lol).

[UCANSEE2]

It was post 108 I was referring to and after going back and reading it again, I don't believe you were implying what I first thought. About what the Judge tells the jury to ignore/not ignore.

Please accept my apology for that one.

[luvbach1]

You better believe he said we. I heard it clearly on a police recording played here in San Diego.It was not Freudian; he just forgot to say I.

[pyx]

Only by the jury ... The general public is not held to the same standard.

The jury is made up of people selected from the general public. Fortunately the selection process can often weed out potential jurors who are predisposed to gathering around bellfreys with mobs armed with torches and pitchforks screaming, "Kill him ! Kill him!". Sadly, the selection process on some of these threads has no such selection process.

[Politicalmom]

I would go for that over imprisoning and killing an innocent person.

[UCANSEE2]

Do you have proof that DVD was molested? Have you got proof that DW EVER molested a little girl?
My opinion based on the evidence ... and you?

I knew you would try this.

Your opinion is based on what evidence? There is no evidence whatsoever that Danielle was molested. The ME testified to this in COURT.

[Politicalmom]

So what. He said we. He usually goes out with his son. Big deal. I refuse to believe that someone with a captive or dead body includes them in a congenial "we". Nobody would have that mind set.

[Rheo]

The reason for this theory is that a cadaver dog gave a positive response to a outside storage bin

This didn't happen..Feldman discredited 180Frank today..he never alerted any LEO to any alert...his dogs went thru the MH on 2/4 and 2/6....he only told of a possible alert on 2/22..after DW was arrested and news of the blood evidence was found.

If she were killed in the MH, why no urine or fecal matter found or blood from the rape?

How did he keep her quiet?..bound, drugged?

[UCANSEE2]

You are about 75 messages behind. I work in the stockmarket and get up at 4am and am almost ready for bed. I'll hang around for awhile but feel free to FreepMail as well. I am not very far behind. I know that you have answered most of my questions by ignoring the question and asking me another question. But that's OK. I understand about need to get to bed. Me too. I feel for you if you have to get up at 4am. Maybe it is because it is so late that we are all 'edgy'. I know I have discussed how this case seems to drag out the emotional rage factor.

I like to try and keep things civil and courteous, and I don't think I did too well tonight.

I hope we can continue to argue/debate another time. No matter what you believe.

Thanks......

[luvbach1]

Yes, MH was parked in neighborhood at times. And yes she sold cookies on one occasion to Westerfield.I aknowledged that in a previous post. To me that indicates that Danielle was merely acquainted with W. But, in my opinion, not well enough to make it likely that she would cross the street (which her parents didn't allow) and browse through his MH.

[Donzerly lights]

Me too. If you operated successfully in society before the crime, there is NO excuse to not defend yourself in your own words.

Since I'm not bound by jury instruction, I will absolutely think DW guilty, if he doesn't testify.