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To: bonesmccoy
Your defense of the engineers and staff at Loral is heartwarming. On the other hand, the DECISION to work at Loral was theirs. I do not feel sorry for people who choose poorly. They CHOSE to work at a company which had nefarious leadership. They CHOSE to participate and get PAID to participate in some atypical technology "arrangements". Personally, I think the US taxpayer should be refunded every last lick of gov't money that went to Loral!

Your callous attitude is anything but heartwarming. People chose professions and employers for many reasons. The bad practices of a few corporate types are not advertised in company recruiting brochures. Loral employees are not 'bots' workng for Dr Evil, as you seem to think. And with the exception of the GOES weather satellites, Loral is a 'commercial' spacecraft company. Its clients are primarily not govt, and it could hardly be characterized as part of the govt/military complex.

Loral defense industry was bought off by Lockheed more than 7 years ago. At that point Space Systems/Loral (formerly Ford Aerospace) was the only Loral entity. Shortly afterward, it aquired Skynet (the satellite TV broadcast service company - also hardly govt work). Today SS/L (my personal thoughts on corporates in NY aside) remains the leading commercial satellite builder (some might argue next to Boeing/Hughes - but they are definitely more in with govt contracting).

Well educated people ask questions to find truth bfore making flippant comments.

93 posted on 07/03/2002 8:51:10 AM PDT by Magnum44
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To: Magnum44
Dear sir,

I do not need to ask questions regarding the conduct of projects within the defense industry. The contracts at Hughes Aerospace, Rockwell, Northrop, MDAC, Boeing, Lockheed, TRW, and, yes, Loral were granted through a political process.

During the late 1990's our area saw massive lay-offs, collapse of defense production lines, and substantial economic downturn at the hands of those who PROFITTED at Loral.

It is not a callous attitude to hold individuals accountable for their poor judgement. I have seen many HIV/AIDS patients who feel they are entitled to government grants and assistance after THEY CHOSE to engage in unsafe sexual practices. I have seen many ABORTIONS under government funding from liberals because they "feel" it is correct.

I have seen a failed President proclaim his innocence while the employees at Loral CHOSE to support his campaign.

Loral employees were bots and they chose to be used in that fashion by their CEO. THEY CHOSE POORLY!

Regarding your assertions regarding Loral.

1. LockMart does not hold majority control of Loral and Bernie-boy was the one who controlled the tech-leaking direction of Loral. Lower-level management and the Board of Directors should have reviewed "Bernie's" ideas, but all utterly failed in their corporate responsibilities. They also compromised our nation due to their "not my responsibility" attitude.

2. Skynet was developed by a different company and was only acquired to "diversify" the finances.

3. Regarding commercial satellite development, the technology used to orbit a satellite is also the technology to drop a warhead on my house! Boeing/Hughes did not go blabbing about third stage orbital insertion mechanics to communists building nuclear missiles. Loral engineers DID!

Lastly, my comments are NOT flippant. I've been watching these guys at Loral compromise our technology since they were posting at sci.space in the early 1990's. When engineers are posting about technology transfer, is there any wonder why Dana R. can run to the floor of the House of Rep's and give voice to these concerns????

Each citizen must take personal responsibility for their deeds. Loral's employees, just like the people at Enron, Arthur Andersen, Worldcom, InClone (and soon to be Pacificare/Wellpoint/and more), failed to do the right thing.

They should have held their officers accountable.

102 posted on 07/03/2002 8:17:33 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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