Posted on 07/02/2002 12:17:33 PM PDT by varina davis
He may or may not have have been treated justly, and he has undoubtedly received poor counsel in some instances along the way, but that has nothing to do with why I admire him for taking a stand.
Hey, you're preaching to the choir! I posted this to remind folks why we celebrate Independence Day. You comments are unarguable.
I think everyone must make their own decisions in life according to the dictates of their conscience.
To the Agreement among the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and the Other States participating in the Partnership for Peace regarding the Status of their Forces
Considering the "Agreement among the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and the other States Participating in the Partnership for Peace regarding the Status of their Forces'' and the Additional Protocol thereto, both done at Brussels, June 19, 1995;
Considering the need to establish and regulate the status of NATO military headquarters and headquarters personnel in the territory of States participating in the Partnership for Peace in order to facilitate the relationship with the Armed Forces of individual Partnership for Peace nations;
Considering the need to provide appropriate status for personnel of the Armed Forces of Partner States attached to or associated with NATO military headquarters; and Considering that the circumstances in particular NATO Member States or Partner States may make it desirable to meet the needs described above through the means of the present Protocol; The Parties to the present Protocol have agreed as follows:
ARTICLE I
For purposes of the present Protocol, the expression "Paris Protocol'' means the "Protocol on the Status of International Military Headquarters set up pursuant to the North Atlantic Treaty,'' done at Paris, August 28, 1952. The "force'' and "civilian component'', wherever those expressions appear in the Paris Protocol, have the meanings defined in Article 3 of the Paris Protocol and shall also include such persons attached to or associated with NATO military headquarters from other States Parties participating in the Partnership for Peace.
"Dependent'', wherever the expression appears in the Paris Protocol, means the spouse of a member of a force or civilian component as defined in paragraph b. of the present Article, or a child of such member depending on him or her for support.
"PfP SOFA,'' wherever the expression appears in the present Protocol, means the "Agreement among the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and the other States Participating in the Partnership for Peace regarding the Status of their Forces,'' done at Brussels, June 19, 1995. "NATO'' means the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. "NATO military headquarters'' means Allied Headquarters and other international military headquarters or organisations falling within Article 1 and Article 14 of the Paris Protocol.
ARTICLE II
Without prejudice to the rights of States which are Members of NATO or participants in the Partnership for Peace but which are not Parties to the present Protocol, the Parties hereto shall apply provisions identical to those set forth in the Paris Protocol, except as modified in the present Protocol, with respect to the activities of NATO military headquarters and their military and civilian personnel carried out in the territory of a Party hereto.
ARTICLE III
In addition to the area to which the Paris Protocol applies, the present Protocol shall apply to the territory of all States Parties to the present Protocol, as described in Article II paragraph 1 of the PfP SOFA. For purposes of the present Protocol, references in the Paris Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty area shall be deemed to include the territories referred to in paragraph 1 of the present Article.
ARTICLE IV
For purposes of implementing the present Protocol with respect to matters involving Partner States, provisions of the Paris Protocol that provide for differences to be referred to the North Atlantic Council shall be construed to require the Parties concerned to negotiate between or among themselves without recourse to any outside jurisdiction.
ARTICLE V
The present Protocol shall be open for signature by any State that is a signatory of the PfP SOFA. The present Protocol shall be subject to ratification, acceptance or approval. Instruments of ratification, acceptance or approval shall be deposited with the Government of the United States of America, which shall notify all signatory States of each such deposit. As soon as two or more signatory States have deposited their instruments of ratification, acceptance or approval, the present Protocol shall come into force in respect of those States. It shall come into force in respect of each other signatory State on the date of the deposit of its instrument.
ARTICLE VI
The present Protocol may be denounced by any Party to this Protocol by giving written notification of denunciation to the Government of the United States of America, which will notify all signatory States of each such notification. The denunciation shall take effect one year after receipt of the notification by the Government of the United States of America. After the expiration of this period of one year, the present Protocol shall cease to be in force as regards the Party that denounces it, except for the settlement of outstanding claims that arose before the day on which the denunciation takes effect, but shall continue in force for the remaining Parties.
In witness whereof, the undersigned, being duly authorised, have signed this Protocol.
Why do you believe it is?
Non-Sequitur, I do believe you are a patriotric American, as I believe we all are on this thread. If your only reason for posting is to indulge in semantics, there ar better venues.
I do applaud your Navy service. My dad was Navy, WW II; my son-in-law is a Navy Senior Commander, Persian Gulf, Arabian Sea, submarine duty; my daughter (his wife)was Army -- Defense Language Institute; my grandson is Army, Fort Hood; and a granddaughter just enlisted in the Navy. A favorite uncle is Ret. Lt. Colonel U.S. Air Force; Proud of all of them.
My g-g-grandfather served as a volunteer with the 54th Georgia, Co. K Army of Tennessee. Two g-g-uncles died in Union prison camps. A couple g-g-g-g-grandfathers served in the Revolutionary War. Proud of all these folks, too.
I would happily serve (except for constraints of age ;-) to protect this nation. I believe totally in the sovereignty of America.
Still ducking the question...
The particular topic of their complaint is always unique, but their methods are identical, and they meet the same fate as New did--they get a Big Chicken Dinner, and then whine unendingly about how they got railroaded.
Michael New had to demonstrate that the order he disobeyed was, in fact, unlawful. He failed miserably.
I've put in many years with the military and I've been faced with orders that left me scratching my head, but I followed them. They were lawful orders given by people placed in a position of authority over me, and I was duty bound to carry them out to the best of my ability. I swore an oath to do just that. Michael New did, too. Michael New got it into his head that the order to serve with the UN forces was illegal. Michael New was wrong, and it took a Court Martial about 20 minutes to come to that conclusion. Michael New should suck it up, take it like a man, and get on with his life. To use the hoary old military expression, if Michael New is looking for sympathy then he'll find it in the dictionary between sh*t and Syphilis.
You're command of the English language is truly breathtaking.
"U.S. Constitution - Section 9, Clause 3: No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another state, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit delay."
Many folks believe the UN is a "foreign power." It certainly is not a domestic power.
That is a restriction on the several states, not on the federal government.
Depends who makes it and how it is honored.
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