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To: Non-Sequitur
Why do you believe that serving with the UN is unconstitutional?

Why do you believe it is?

Non-Sequitur, I do believe you are a patriotric American, as I believe we all are on this thread. If your only reason for posting is to indulge in semantics, there ar better venues.

I do applaud your Navy service. My dad was Navy, WW II; my son-in-law is a Navy Senior Commander, Persian Gulf, Arabian Sea, submarine duty; my daughter (his wife)was Army -- Defense Language Institute; my grandson is Army, Fort Hood; and a granddaughter just enlisted in the Navy. A favorite uncle is Ret. Lt. Colonel U.S. Air Force; Proud of all of them.

My g-g-grandfather served as a volunteer with the 54th Georgia, Co. K Army of Tennessee. Two g-g-uncles died in Union prison camps. A couple g-g-g-g-grandfathers served in the Revolutionary War. Proud of all these folks, too.

I would happily serve (except for constraints of age ;-) to protect this nation. I believe totally in the sovereignty of America.

151 posted on 07/03/2002 10:57:03 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
Non-Sequitur, I do believe you are a patriotric American, as I believe we all are on this thread. If your only reason for posting is to indulge in semantics, there ar better venues.

Still ducking the question...

152 posted on 07/03/2002 11:07:24 AM PDT by ProudAmerican2
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To: varina davis
Michael New has many counterparts in the U.S. military. They are known as "barracks lawyers," "seabag lawyers," and other less flattering terms not suitable for mixed company.

The particular topic of their complaint is always unique, but their methods are identical, and they meet the same fate as New did--they get a Big Chicken Dinner, and then whine unendingly about how they got railroaded.

Michael New had to demonstrate that the order he disobeyed was, in fact, unlawful. He failed miserably.

153 posted on 07/03/2002 11:13:59 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: varina davis
I don't think that the Constituion enters into the picture at all, which is why I was surprised by your claim. Surely you base it on something? One particular Article of the Constituion? One certain clause? I was curious as to which one.

I've put in many years with the military and I've been faced with orders that left me scratching my head, but I followed them. They were lawful orders given by people placed in a position of authority over me, and I was duty bound to carry them out to the best of my ability. I swore an oath to do just that. Michael New did, too. Michael New got it into his head that the order to serve with the UN forces was illegal. Michael New was wrong, and it took a Court Martial about 20 minutes to come to that conclusion. Michael New should suck it up, take it like a man, and get on with his life. To use the hoary old military expression, if Michael New is looking for sympathy then he'll find it in the dictionary between sh*t and Syphilis.

154 posted on 07/03/2002 11:16:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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