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AB 1058 Anti-SUV bill clone passes in CA
Hegh Hewitt
| 2002/07/01
| Hugh Hewitt
Posted on 07/01/2002 6:51:05 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Nuke'm Glowing; Brad's Gramma
I hear things aren't so grand out in Florida either, what with the folks not being able to read a ballot and all.
To: upchuck
Well thats your choice.......scuse me it was "your" choice if you live in the Peoples Republic of Kali......... now you don't get to make such decisions for yourself anymore.
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:08:56 PM PDT
by
Squantos
To: Chemist_Geek
Of course, as soon as I come up with the money, I'm buying a Hummer. Or a Cessna 177. Or both... (grin)Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you'll have to deal with all those who are jealous! ;-)
To: Johnny Crab
I'm doing my best to represent Freeperdom : I take out the SUV as my SPORTS car, but for pure enjoyment I drive my F350 Crew Cab DIESEL. The best part is I am not subject to any California smog checks. Yuk yuk yuk.
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:28:52 PM PDT
by
ZGuy
To: ZGuy
Crew Cab DIESEL. The best part is I am not subject to any California smog checks. Yuk yuk yuk. HAR! WAY TO GO!!!!
To: mhking
I'm sure you/they don't expect me to cram my large frame (6'4"/285#) and the remainder of my family into an econobox, do you? NO. MARTA
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:31:01 PM PDT
by
Slewfoot
To: upchuck
Sounds ok to me. But, then, SUVs are on my list of "Things that don't need to be." Several other "things that don't need to be", but are:
Hot fudge sundaes
Cheeseburgers
Ice
Nikes
First class
Bass boats
Snoopy
You got a problem with those, too?
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:40:17 PM PDT
by
okie01
To: ZGuy
AB 1058, as it passed the Assembly:
(1) Required the State Air Resources Board to develop and adopt, by January
1, 2004, regulations that achieve the maximum feasible and cost-effective reduction of carbon dioxide emitted by passenger vehicles, light-duty trucks, and any other vehicle type whose primary use or purpose is noncommercial personal transportation, and prohibited those regulations from taking effect prior to January 1, 2005.
(2) Required the state board, by January 1, 2004, to provide a report to the Legislature summarizing the content of those regulations.
(1) With regard to (1) above, the Senate amendments require the state board to develop and adopt those regulations no later than January 1, 2005, and prohibit the regulations from taking effect prior to January 1, 2006. The Senate amendments require the regulations to cover, in addition to carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, hydroflurocarbons, perflurocarbons, and sulfur hexafluoride. The Senate amendments limit the overall applicability of the regulations to vehicles that are manufactured in the 2009 model year, or any model year thereafter.
(2) With regard to (2) above, the Senate amendments require the state board to provide the report to the Legislature by January 1, 2005, and additionally require that report to include the specific actions taken by the state board in developing and adopting the regulations and analyses of the impact of the regulations on specified communities in the state and the economic and public health impacts of the state board's actions.
(3) The Senate amendments additionally require the state board, in providing compliance flexibility, to ensure that any alternative method of compliance achieves the equivalent or greater reduction in emissions of greenhouse gases as the emission standards contained in the regulations, and prohibit the state board from imposing any mandatory trip reduction measure or land use restriction.
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:41:25 PM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: AshleyTodd
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you'll have to deal with all those who are jealous!
;-)In all seriousness, I believe that a significant number of the "grass roots" of the anti-SUV movement are subconsciously motivated by jealousy. The anti-General Aviation mob is strongly motivated by the same...
To: Chemist_Geek
In all seriousness, I believe that a significant number of the "grass roots" of the anti-SUV movement are subconsciously motivated by jealousy. The anti-General Aviation mob is strongly motivated by the same.I don't know anything about the anti-General Aviation mob, but I'm sure jealousy could be motivating them, just as it does the anti-SUV movement, the "I hate Rush" crowd, etc., etc., etc.
To: Chemist_Geek
"I see too many SUV drivers who apparently believe that their behemoth gives them an inalienable right to drive as rudely as possible while on the city roads." I submit that, if you put these same drivers in 1964 Nash Metropolitan, they would be every bit as rude and annoying.
It's not the vehicle, it's the driver...
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:52:10 PM PDT
by
okie01
To: upchuck
I'm not ready to drive the tin can crap the obstructionist enviros are selling. They all think we are shorter than 5'6", weigh less than 130 lbs, have no children and no other pasengers and do not have to drive more than ten miles to a particular destination.
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posted on
07/01/2002 9:53:41 PM PDT
by
oyez
To: oyez
I know a couple libs (DIE-HARD, too) who drive really, really OLD vehicles. Don't THEY cause more emission problems than the newer cars??????
To: ZGuy
Cal Worthington is probably pretty pissed right now.
As he should be.
94
posted on
07/01/2002 9:57:15 PM PDT
by
zoyd
To: Brad's Gramma
Do you happen to know what it costs to renew annual tags in CA on a 35k SUV?
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posted on
07/01/2002 10:02:08 PM PDT
by
spectre
To: spectre
Nope. Sorry. Gramps had (do NOT laugh) an Alero and it was $203 this year. It was a lease, we turned the lemon car in and are now looking for....an SUV for me.
To: spectre
Do you happen to know what it costs to renew annual tags in CA on a 35k SUV? Well, it's gonna cost a lot more next year than it did last year, I can tell you that. They nuked the reduced registration fees (because Gray-Out can't make his budget).
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posted on
07/01/2002 10:08:13 PM PDT
by
zoyd
To: spectre
.......AND....this makes me so mad, that if we had the $$, I'd buy a Suburban or something equally big just to be ornery.
To: Brad's Gramma
Looks to me like you better get that big puppy real soon and save yourself $3500 or so :>)
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posted on
07/01/2002 10:14:29 PM PDT
by
spectre
To: ZGuy
I hope this legislation does away with limos in California too, what's good for the regular guy is good for the politicians and rich folks.
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posted on
07/01/2002 10:15:02 PM PDT
by
RJL
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