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AB 1058 Anti-SUV bill clone passes in CA
Hegh Hewitt | 2002/07/01 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 07/01/2002 6:51:05 PM PDT by ZGuy

John Campbell (R) just announced on the Hugh Hewitt show that the democrats in Sacramento have pulled a fast one. Bill 1058 which has been written about on several posts originally failed. The democrats took a bill on Friday night which dealt with an unrelated subject and gutted out the language. They then inserted the exact language of 1058 and the senate passed it Friday. This (Monday) afternoon the house got the bill. The democrats had to hold a hearing and every office in the capital was available but they chose to hold the "hearings" in the smallest office in the building - the only one which had no TV cameras, no radio, no cameras, and no space for reporters or the public to attend. They then passed a vote making this bill exempt from the 3-day waiting period required by law for public input. The democrats just passed the bill in the last 45 minutes and it now goes to the governor's desk. No republicans voted for the bill in either chamber. One highlight - (Dennis?) Cardoza - the democrat running for Condit's seat voted for the bill in the central valley. He's toast.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1058; autoshop; carbondioxide; landgrab; libertarians; suvs
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To: Rockitz
1. I expect Davis to sign it.

2. They'll win in court too.

61 posted on 07/01/2002 8:37:51 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: mhking

Technically not an SUV but the 440-4 V-8 and TorqueFlite trany will out pull what passes for power in most of the SUV's on the road these days.

Passes everything on the road but the gas station.

62 posted on 07/01/2002 8:38:41 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: ZGuy
You have to consider the ways in which the money spent on gas for things like SUVs comes back to America.

Near as I can tell, reading the story about innocent Christians in Bosnia being bombed (by the USAF) three days after the Saudis inked a major deal for American fighter planes, the only rational interpretation of that I can see is that SUVs kill Christians. That's aside from SUV owners all being tailgaters, wife-beaters, fourflushers, deadbeats and losers of various and sundry other stripes of course.

63 posted on 07/01/2002 8:41:58 PM PDT by medved
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To: BJungNan
Now that's an Urban Assault Vehicle®

About the only other thing that would qualify in that class is the Buick Deuce-and-a-quarter pimpmobile...

64 posted on 07/01/2002 8:43:43 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Carry_Okie
It's way overdue!!!

By the way, I pay as much attention as I can afford to, but I couldn't find any reference to "his highness" in your smashing link!

65 posted on 07/01/2002 8:43:51 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: spectre
I think I heard, first time around w/this bill it would jack up the price by around $3,000. Maybe more. Then, the taxes???? were higher, and they were somehow gonna make you pay more for gas...depending on the mileage used. Sorry if this was already posted.
66 posted on 07/01/2002 8:44:23 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: ZGuy
Here is the direct link and the details.

THE DRIVING TAX
2 cents per mile
50 cents per gallon
$3500 for each new SUV, Minivan and truck

http://fixtraffic.org/drivingtax.html
http://fixtraffic.org/

On April 28, Assembly Bill 1058 passed an assembly commitee with a whopping 8-3 vote. UPDATE: IT HAS NOW PASSED THE SENATE, IS HEADED TO THE ASSEMBLY AND ON THE FAST TRACK TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK! This bill will give California Air Resources Board the go ahead to work on ways to reduce "greenhouse gases." In one report CARB authored, they suggested the per mile tax, gas tax increase and SUV tax. Proponents of the bill are quick to argue that this bill does not raise taxes and CARB does not have the authority to enact any of their suggestions.

That is true, because legislation to enact these ideas would have to come out of the state legislature. However, the state is in a big budget mess right now and politicians are scrambling to find more revenue. If CARB comes back and says that we NEED these taxes to "reduce emissions," then the politicians can hide behind CARB when they institute these taxes. When people complain, they can simply claim that they did it for the environment and that CARB said they had to do it.

This is a combination money grab by Sacramento and a contiunation of the "car is evil" mantra. The government continues to use the car as a cash cow, while simulatenously making it harder for you to drive by refusing to make desperately needed highway improvements. Politicians can morally justify taking grabbing money from motorists because, after all, you should not be driving anyway.

67 posted on 07/01/2002 8:44:38 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: upchuck
" Sounds ok to me. But, then, SUVs are on my list of "Things that don't need to be."

I'm glad you feel that my vehicle is something that "don't need to be". I'm glad you want to make choices for me in my life. Remember this when the government kicks your doors in and takes some rights away from you. We are way down that slippery slope and speeding up daily.
68 posted on 07/01/2002 8:46:15 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: BJungNan
I've had it with those idiots in CA. Whenever they pass this kind of nonsense, most other states fall in line. Makes me want to puke.....but not on the seats of my SUV.
69 posted on 07/01/2002 8:48:14 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: BJungNan
Between the 9th circuit and this law, it's just more justification for giving Cookafornia back to Mexico or praying for the big earthquake. Nevada would be so much more fun with a beachfront closer to Vegas and Reno anyways.
70 posted on 07/01/2002 8:48:35 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
or praying for the big earthquake.

I'm sure all the California freepers appreciate that.

71 posted on 07/01/2002 8:51:23 PM PDT by AshleyTodd
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To: AshleyTodd
Most of America does. Commiefornia is slowing this nation down. It has got to go. Either by a miracle, Republican Revolution (which qualifies as a miracle), or the means suggested in my other post.
72 posted on 07/01/2002 8:52:37 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: AshleyTodd
I'm sure all the California freepers appreciate that.

Nope. We don't. And we're mighty embarrassed over these bozo's in office.....why doesn't everyone try calling our senators with us? I'm sure we can drum up zip codes, if you need....(I didn't say that!)

73 posted on 07/01/2002 8:53:46 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: mhking
About the only other thing that would qualify in that class is the Buick Deuce-and-a-quarter pimpmobile...

At 231 inches (that's 19 feet 4 inches) long, no Buick comes close to this baby. We are talking 4,676 lbs of Chrysler New Yorker Brougham in 2-door style.

74 posted on 07/01/2002 8:55:10 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
We only need more conservatives going out and VOTING! Wanna move here for a while???? The weather's mighty nice. Come on....just long enough to legally vote.
75 posted on 07/01/2002 8:55:29 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma; BJungNan
Thanks for the info.

The total tax package should, IMHO cause the Demos who passed this to be hunted down like mad dogs in November (unless Ca voters are TOTALLY brain dead).

76 posted on 07/01/2002 8:55:55 PM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Our problem ! is we're honest. We only use live voters. We only vote once. And our pets stay home on voting day.

We've got some slime who don't do things right, if you know what I'm talking about.
77 posted on 07/01/2002 8:57:30 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
No thanks. We're already fighting your war in Florida with the Hollyweirds coming down here to buy homes in our state.
78 posted on 07/01/2002 9:01:54 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: BJungNan
I prefer the 1970's Ford/Merc wagons with the 400(runs forever) or the 460(torque monster). And they are the ONLY vehicles I own that allow one to drive all day without feeling the need for a chiropractor and/or hot tub. I am VERY close to transplanting the front seat from one into a hip-killing Dodge Shadow that I am currently forced to use for 46 miles per day while my wagons are sleeping(waiting parts for "state inspection").

I did crank 'em up on Earth Day just to do my fair share to prevent the next Ice Age we were warned about in the 1970's.....

79 posted on 07/01/2002 9:03:13 PM PDT by Johnny Crab
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To: AshleyTodd
I'm sure all the California freepers appreciate that.

Unfortunately, California's real close to being a write-off for the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave...

As far as SUV's go, I don't care for them for one reason: For whatever reason, it seems like more SUV drivers than car drivers drive in an impolite, discourteous manner. I see too many SUV drivers who apparently believe that their behemoth gives them an inalienable right to drive as rudely as possible while on the city roads. As an aside, my observations are that rural SUV drivers are polite, so it may just be the city's spiritual pollution effect. Still, they're especially dangerous to everyone else on the road.

Of course, as soon as I come up with the money, I'm buying a Hummer. Or a Cessna 177. Or both... (grin)

80 posted on 07/01/2002 9:05:16 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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