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AB 1058 Anti-SUV bill clone passes in CA
Hegh Hewitt | 2002/07/01 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 07/01/2002 6:51:05 PM PDT by ZGuy

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To: spectre
Bump for later
101 posted on 07/01/2002 10:15:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: spectre
NO kidding. I'm still wondering (shaking in the boots, actually) how they're going to monitor my gas usage. Oh man, think of the paperwork THAT would make!!!!!!!!!!!
102 posted on 07/01/2002 10:18:08 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: hoosiermama
How much later?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry.
103 posted on 07/01/2002 10:18:44 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: okie01

I submit that, if you put these same drivers in 1964 Nash Metropolitan, they would be every bit as rude and annoying.

It's not the vehicle, it's the driver...

I don't disagree. However, in the Metropolitan, they would likely have a much more personal awareness of the potential consequences of inconsiderate driving (i.e. injuries suffered in a traffic accident). It's almost as if the SUV was a coat of armor to them, which allows them to blither on carelessly down the road, not suffering the consequences of their callous rudeness.

I believe that it is a virtue to treat other human beings with as much politeness and consideration as possible, at all times.

Yes, the drivers are at fault not the vehicle. I've noted above that rural SUV drivers are, in my observations, more considerate drivers than urban SUV drivers.

104 posted on 07/01/2002 10:18:53 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Chemist_Geek
I've noted above that rural SUV drivers are, in my observations, more considerate drivers than urban SUV drivers.

And the drivers of other cars? Same thing? (I hope so)

105 posted on 07/01/2002 10:21:12 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
Unfortunately, if you have an annual inspection for smog/safety it will be real easy to note the odometer and tax accordingly.
106 posted on 07/01/2002 10:22:42 PM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
Duh, she says, slapping herself on the forehead.


107 posted on 07/01/2002 10:23:45 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: ZGuy
If we do not get rid of the RATS in California, we are all going to have to do a mass exodus out of here!
108 posted on 07/01/2002 10:23:48 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ZGuy
But don't worry. Knowing the automakers, they will come through with Davis' bribe.
109 posted on 07/01/2002 10:23:51 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
But don't worry. Knowing the automakers, they will come through with Davis' bribe.

Yep. And the reality is that we are reduced to bribes in order to preserve any freedoms.

110 posted on 07/01/2002 10:29:17 PM PDT by zoyd
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
No thanks. We're already fighting your war in Florida with the Hollyweirds coming down here to buy homes in our state

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or praying for the big earthquake.

We out here in California pray your homes, your hopes and your dreams get blown away in hurricanes... it's fun to watch on the news....especially the panic when you're trying to get out of town, then those really depressed faces y'all get afterwords.

Back at ya nitwit.

111 posted on 07/01/2002 10:33:21 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: upchuck
Sounds ok to me. But, then, SUVs are on my list of "Things that don't need to be."

Based upon whose standards? Yours? Well, in that case, maybe the next thing the government votes against will be something that you need or want. Remember: "When they came for the Christians, I did not say anything, for after all, I was not a christian..."

Get it?

112 posted on 07/01/2002 10:35:51 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: upchuck
Sounds ok to me. But, then, SUVs are on my list of "Things that don't need to be."

Based upon whose standards? Yours? Well, in that case, maybe the next thing the government votes against will be something that you need or want. Remember: "When they came for the Christians, I did not say anything, for after all, I was not a christian..."

Get it?

113 posted on 07/01/2002 10:35:51 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: ZGuy
Now he has 12 days to say to the car makers and/or the enviros "Give me major money or I will sign/veto this bill."

Perhaps. But he better be carefule with the Quid Pro Quo. Many in California are onto his game, even many "sheeple".

114 posted on 07/01/2002 10:37:41 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: oldtimer
Let the fruits and nuts in Kaliforniastan freeze in the dark.

But there are many Freeper cousins fighting the good fight here...

115 posted on 07/01/2002 10:39:11 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I'm getting out the phone book and posting Davis' local phone number. You too? Be right back....
116 posted on 07/01/2002 10:40:00 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: ZGuy
There is one last-resort maneuver that could be used against this bill: a referendum.

To quote from a guide provided by the California Secretary of State:

Pursuant to article II, section 9, of the California Constitution, a referendum is the power of the electors to approve or reject any statute enacted by the Legislature. A referendum cannot be used on urgency statutes, statutes calling elections, or statutes providing for tax levies or appropriations for current expenses of the state.

...the California Constitution requires that the process must be completed within ninety days of the enactment of the bill that is being referred. The signature requirements are the same for a referendum as an initiative statute. [The number of signatures must be equal to at least 5% of the total votes cast for Governor at the last gubernatorial election. (Cal. Const., art. II, § 8(b); § 9035) The total number of signatures required for initiative statutes, which qualify for circulation before the November 2002 gubernatorial election, is 419,260.]

So given enough money (which should be available from all the organizations lined up against it), some good political consultants, and a quick enough reaction time, it is possible to force it onto the ballot and then defeat it.

117 posted on 07/01/2002 10:42:34 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: Johnny Crab
I did crank 'em up on Earth Day just to do my fair share to prevent the next Ice Age we were warned about in the 1970's.....

Yea, what happened to that ice age!? I remember being scared by my teachers about that. Even came home and told my mom about it I was so worried.

Different day, same BS.

I'd love to go back and get some of that propoganda they were spreading then. Now that would be a good link!

118 posted on 07/01/2002 10:42:37 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Governor's Office

18952 Mac Arthur Blvd.
Irvine, CA

949-553-3566
*******
Ernest, do you have another one????
119 posted on 07/01/2002 10:42:38 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: mhking
They'll have to pry the steering wheel out of my cold, dead fingers...

We need to sign Charlton Heston to front the SUV cause.

And, I wonder how smart the dims are on this one. Many swing voters are "soccer moms". Try to take their SUV's and there could be hell to pay. Trust me, you wouldn't want to try and evict my lovee from hers -- would be a BAD move. :O)

120 posted on 07/01/2002 10:43:13 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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