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To: Jhoffa_
No, they're not inferior, just different. In Genesis, Eve was created from a rib from Adam's side. Not a bone from his foot to be ruled over by him, and not a bone from his head to rule over him, but a bone from his side to be his equal. A different creature in many ways, but equal.
85 posted on 07/01/2002 6:03:24 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldenstategirl
Equal in worth to the Lord yes, I would agree with that.

But as a wife she is to subject herself to her husband. And women are physically inferior to men. They are not "equal" in either context at all.

I am sorry if you don't like it, but it's not my fault.

I didn't make men and women nor did I define their roles in marriage, God did that. I didn't make myself stronger or bigger so I could lord it over you either, God did that.

You don't have to agree, but your argument isn't with me. It's with God.

92 posted on 07/01/2002 6:08:10 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: goldenstategirl
After paging me in a most agressive manner, you have not replied to my post, (post 220), so I shall respond again to you.

Greetings to your friend the Hindu monk, and I am sure that what you say is true, and that he would never be involved in gang rape. But this does not alter the fact that gang rape is used in India and Pakistan as a means of social control between castes. It relates to tribal customs which are pre-Christian and pre-Islamic. Here is a link to an article discussing such cases, and also the efforts of decent people to bring a halt to it.

http://www.oneworld.org/ips2/n ov/india_rape.html

It is funny that you expect me to defend Islam to you. Because I am a Catholic, and an academic, I constantly get dumb, aggresive comments from people at the University (it is a very secular environment.) All about "a Catholic priests did this" "another Catholic did that" "how do you defend this or that Bishop?" On and on. Every day, it seems, some Catholic commits some dreadful crime, and they get support from the hierachy, and religious ideology, in covering it up. Then I am expected to come up with an answer - have you any to suggest?

The reason why you took me for a Muslim is because I have been researching to write a biography of a woman who was a leading Shia Muslim intellectual in Iraq. My last manuscript (still unpublished, hope to bring it out) is a life study of a Catholic saint. I like doing comparative religious studies. If you do not like it, then you do not have to read what I write. Remember, I have never pinged you.

On women's position, you state: "not inferior ... Eve was created from a rib from Adam's side. Not a bone from his foot to be ruled over by him ... etc." I hope that you realise that this is a Jewish quote, it comes from the Talmud. The role of Christian women is spelt out in the New Testament "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." 1 Corinthians 11:3. And it is for this reason that the woman is cover her head. That is not according to me, it is according to Scripture.
479 posted on 07/03/2002 10:24:52 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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