Gang-rape of teenager ordered as punishment for brother's sins

ABCNewsOnline ^ | 7/2/02 | Anon

[What Is Ain't]

A teenage girl was gang-raped in central Pakistan last month as "punishment" meted out by a tribal jury for her brother's alleged affair with a woman of a higher tribe, police said.

A Panchayat, or tribal jury, ordered four men, including one of the jurists, to rape the 18-year-old girl on June 22 in the village of Meerwala.

Meerwala lies 610 kilometres south-west of the capital Islamabad.

District police chief Malik Saeed Awan said authorities were informed of the publicly-ordered gang-rape several days after the incident.

He said four men took turns to sexually assault the girl inside a room. She was then ordered to return home naked before 1,000 onlookers.

The rape was to avenge the "insult" caused to a family of the Mastoi tribe by the girl's brother's alleged "illicit affair" with a woman of a higher social standing.

The girl and her brother were from the lower Gujjar tribe.

The Panchayat had threatened that all women in the accused's family would be raped unless the 18-year-old submitted herself to the public gang rape.

Awan said police were taking action against members of the Panchayat.

Lawyers visiting the tribal area on Sunday urged the authorities to prosecute the rapists and the jury.

[Savage Beast]

These people should be ripe for conversion to another religion. Any religion would be an improvement. They need missionaries more than they need anything.

[Pining_4_TX]

Exactly! If Muslims were in the majority in this country, they would turn it into another Saudi Arabia. No more freedom, no basic human rights, and tolerance would be right out the door.

[Red Jones]

the ordinary citizens of pakistan are living under a terrible tyranny. If you convert to christianity in Pakistan, then they can order that your whole family be beaten up. We should also know that Pakistan is absolutely dependent on money that it receives from either america or from institutions that america has influence over such as IMF/World Bank.

[MonroeDNA]

So we're supposed to admire a culture that has 1000 people watching a gang rape that was sanctioned by their courts? p> So we're supposed to admire a culture whose conquistadors murdered and raped hundreds of thousands of native peoples, whose only sin was that they happened to live on top of some gold?

No, condemn ANY culture that murdered or raped as a habit or custom, generations ago. That's all we can do; they are dead. There is nothing we can do to help those innocents; they are dead, too. The past cannot be changed.

But cultures that today rape teenage girls as punishment for their brother's supposed sins, well, that we can do something about. You and me both. We can change today's world, not yesterday's. So let's change it.

Lets put a stop to the raping of teenage girls. Let's put a stop to punishing a woman for her brother's supposed crime. Let's free women to show their faces, to dress freely, to learn, to go to school. Let's free today's women. That is the best we can do with our lives today.

The past is dead, and neither you nor I are responsible for it. But we are responsible for what we do today, to free those women.

Will you join us in freeing today's slaves? Will you join us in freeing women who are alive today, who will thank you personally? Will you condemn the raping of an 18 year old by 4 men, for what her brother did?

Would you let those people do that to your daughter? Or would you cry out in vengance and do what needs to be done?

[mikeIII]

If this happened in a Christian country, there would be some kind of punishment for the tribal leaders, we'll see what happens to them since it's a Muslim country instead.

Quite right. It's not difficult to guess what will happen in this Islamic country. I find it appalling that there those here who are pointing at Christian conquests and inquisitions instead of condemning this disgraceful instance of ill-treatment of women!

[Restorer]

The Mosaic Law enforced essentially the same practices with regard to captured enemy women. They became the property of the Jews who had killed their husbands or fathers.

You might also try reading Homer or The Trojan Women (Euripides?).

The difference is that nobody in the West still openly advocates such things, despite their ancient roots in our ancestral culture.

[Restorer]

I could find absolutely NOTHING on the "Mastoi" tribe

Misspelled?

[Cultural Jihad]

For all your ranting about Islam, feminism and humanist moral-liberalism have oppressed Western women greatly; indeed they have willingly oppressed themselves more than any imagined Muslim ever has. Where is the mention that women and children are no longer safe to walk the streets as they used to, thanks not to Muslims but to pornography and drugs? Where is the mention of the self-inflicted heartbreak and loneliness, not by Muslims but by women who think so little of themselves they are willing to give men what they selfishly want without the protection and honor of a marriage pledge? Where is the barbaric mention of the inconvenient babies willingly thrown in the garbage cans across this land, not by Muslims but by American women? The real enemy is liberalism, which so destroys anything it touches.

[Paleo Conservative]

I thought Pakistan was supposed to have a good record on women's rights. After all didn't they ratify CEDAW.

[mikeIII]

the ordinary citizens of pakistan are living under a terrible tyranny. If you convert to christianity in Pakistan, then they can order that your whole family be beaten up. We should also know that Pakistan is absolutely dependent on money that it receives from either america ...

85% of Pakistanis view America unfavorably!

[thathamiltonwoman]

I will remember this the next time someone tells me how wonderful Islam is.

[FormerLurker]

I believe that a society that would act in this manner is beyond redemption.

I'm with you on that.

We must come to terms with the fact that many Muslims over there see America as a great evil and want to see us destroyed.

I'm also with you on that. I do, however, feel empathy towards those, both here and abroad, who might believe in Allah, yet don't feel hatred towards the United States, those who sincerely distance themselves mentally and spiritually with such blasphemous monsters. There really does appear to be SOME that feel strongly against this type of atrocity, as well as having good will towards us.

Unfortunetely, fanatics and their followers dictate public opinion in many of those distant lands. I hold no hatred against any particular religion (except for satanisim), but do hold those accountable who use religion as an excuse to perpetrate evil. Those who are influencing public opinion amongst the majority of Muslims, I would have to say are perpetrating evil.

Accordingly, those who display animosity against us and/or show indifference to human life and dignity, deserve no sympathy, no quarter, no reprive.

[Illbay]

They don't want to think about that because they know they can't do anything about it.

But they can always "blow the h*ll out of the Muslims," "nuke 'em till they glow" and all those happy things they chatter about.

I think that's why the cognitive dissonance.

[Alamo-Girl]

Jeepers!

[MonroeDNA]

"There are over a billion Muslims - if they all thought and hated in lockstep like you seem to believe that they do, do you honestly believe that Israel would still exist?"

Yes. The Koran states that it is the only source of truth, and that anything outside the Koran is evil. As in, being creative, and developing new weapons.

Islamists would nuke Isreal today if they had the power. But their Koran discourages freedom to think outside, well, the Koran. Thank God. They'll use it when they can purchase it.

Quick, how many rifles were developed by Muslims? How many planes? How many grenades? How many books, other than Mohammed stories? How many antibiotics? How many disease cures? How many operas? How many symphonies? How many DNA sequences? How many satellites?

The answer is none. Their Koran forbids it--none of those things are specifically listed as allowed.

Quick, how many infidels have been blown to pieces in the past year?

You see, that is both allowed and encouraged.

Again, good thing they haven't bought nukes (yet).

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

I posted an excerpt written by that individual. What part of that was a flame? Since when is stating the truth about someone who intentionally misrepresents themselves a flame?

[MonroeDNA]

Do you feel that the gang rape of this woman is justified? yes or no?

[BlackVeil]

"only 75 years ago" Lucky you, to be an American. Here in Australia, the most frightful crimes go on, and go unpunished, especially in rural areas. It is not a question of 75 years ago.

In the town of Horsham, (Victoria, Aust) a woman was beaten to death by her husband and a group of his friends. This was in the early 1990s (1992?), her name was Joan Vollmer (nee Taylor). They were a fundamentalist "Christian" group, and she wanted to leave her husband. They decided to perform an exorcism ceremony, and imprisoned her in her house while they did it. I won't give you the details (shudder.) One of their obsessions was that "the demons were in her womb" - so they violently tried to get them out. Finally they strangled her. She died after continuous assaults which had gone on for several days. Their "pastor" visited the house several times, and their whole religious community (a nasty little sect) knew what was going on, but no one stopped them.

Under Australian law, all these people had committed offenses which would make them liable for sentences of 20 years and more. But only her husband was charged, on a lesser grade of involuntary killing, and HE WALKED. The Magistrate set him free!!!!!! The Magistrate agreed with the husband's story, which was that he was only performing an exorcism, and did not intend to kill her. (Two bones in her throat were entirely crushed.) Feminist groups in Australia made an outcry over this, especially after the same religious group made further acts of violence in the town. He was taken away to Melbourne, (a capital city), charged again and convicted this time. He got a light sentence (always a light sentence for wife killing) and he is probably free by now.

This murder was an occasion for Christian-bashing in Australia, but no one looked at our long-standing tolerance for domestic violence, which was the true foundation of the case. The Catholic Church (which had NOTHING to do with the sect in question) was held up to ridicule and journalists kept asking their spokespeople about "don't you do exorcisms etc."

I could go on and on with other examples. But I think I have given you a bad enough impression of Aust. as it is.