Posted on 06/30/2002 12:09:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:39:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Doug Osugi can't say exactly when he began believing in global warming. The realization that Earth's temperature truly is rising dawned gradually.
"It is not something that suddenly, the next day, you realize that it's true," said Osugi, a California water resources planner. "I think it's something that you're slowly being convinced that, yes, it's there, as more and more information comes out.
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I'm thinking the same way. I have lived in So. California for 42 years. There have been much hotter seasons than this one, and for longer periods of time.
This drought isn't even the worse one on record ('60-'61 was worse) and our skies seem cleaner than they used to be.
I think this is just nothing more than an opportunity for the alarmist science crowd to cease. Their research data is dubious to say the least.
Kyoto would reduce CO2 emissions to 7% below 1990 levels by 2112, some crap like that. Thing is, even with that reduction, CO2 continues to accumulate at a rate only slightly lower than it would have otherwise.
The net effect on temps 50-100 years out would be negligible.
Even if we stopped emissions completely today, if the models are correct, there will STILL be man-induced warming.
Refine the damn models, and if CO2 really is a problem, develop technology to scrub it out, if removal is in the end desirable. A Kyoto castrated economy is not optimum for developing such technology.
Exactly! CO2 is only 370 millionths (370/1,000,000) of the atmosphere. That is a tiny tiny percentage, and to say that it is causing climate change one way or the other is a stretch of immense proportions...
I don't think that's true. More troubling is the failure of current climate models to take into account increased cloud cover induced cooling.
One more time:
Can there be such a thing as global warming? Yes.
There is no disagreement between the informed and the losers.
Is it anthropogenic? Probably not.
If there is one constant in nature it's the certainty that there will be infinite variability, even in climate short term and particularly long term.
Does this entitle the neurotic to formulate public policy?
No.
I wonder what else happened today?
Grow tress, don't burn them ...down with the enviralists!!!
Hows that?
I wonder what else happened today?
I am watching a good show on C-SPAN on Russell Kirk,
It is very good, for those of us that are rather uninformed about the roots of Conservatisms!
That's odd. Only a month ago, the Global Warming Priesthood assumed that the only unbelievers were a few infidel yokels in flyover country. Their sermons had moved on to the necessity of the Kyoto treaty. That global warming is real was considered sold and delivered. It would seem that they are reeling from the effects of Bush's quick dismissal of "the bureacracy's" global warming report. That didn't seem to get him in a lot of hot water, suggesting that maybe there's a Crisis Of Faith in Global Warmingism. People just didn't seem to get very upset with Bush for denying Official Dogma. Maybe -- horrors -- it's not all that official after all. I have to admire these people's persistence. Here they are only two weeks later, back to square one, selling the basic precepts of Global Warmingism... as if we'd never heard them before. It's like the old lady who used to live behind me, a Jehovah's Witness, who had stopped coming to my door after I told her I was raised Catholic. And then one day, there she was again. Won't I just read the Watchtower? In addition to these two stories, today's Atlanta Journal and Constitution is offering "Meltdown in Montana; Scientists fear park's glaciers may disappear within 30 years," and the London Sunday Telegraph is telling the Brits that "Alaskans retreat inland as ice melts." That's four coordinated articles in one day. I have to admire the PR Department that pulled this off. These guys are better organized than the Scientologists. |
With all the uncontrolled forest fires, and volcanic activity worldwide, those events in themselves create more environmental impact than what man creates. And since this information is coming from Caliphony, then it is indeed credible!!!!!! (smirk, gag, cough)...... NOT!!
Nick you got that right. It would seem that alot of us believe that there is a warming trend. After all, we just passed a peak in the solar cycle. Also we are not having an El Nino year in California resulting in generally less rainfall. Actually the weather is great and a little warmer is good for our health. So there is a warming trend. Now convince us that we did it, and that its too late to save this planet. Oh h*ll, how do I stop myself from running around in circles.
I like how they blame gobal warming for less run off as if those 290 extra trees per acre, sucking up the water, had nothing to do with it.
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