[Bishop] Adamec irked at loose lips in diocese [,planning to punish good straight priest]

THE TRIBUNE-DEMOCRAT ^ | June 30, 2002 | SUSAN EVANS

[Siobhan]

LOL!

;^)

[Siobhan]

Polycarp, this article of yours is outstanding. I will pray with all my heart that it is published. I am outraged at Bishop Adamec for putting your son at risk and for lying to your friend, but I am so proud of you for bringing it out into the Light. God bless you, and Godspeed on getting this published.

Sia lodato Gesucristo!

[Salvation]

I am sorry if the Catholic Church has hurt you in any way. Since you choose not to disclose why you feel so strongly, I feel like I am throwing mud when maybe I need to sit down and listen.

I do not think the Catholic Church will implode, for out of every advesity comes a greater or equal opportunity. My prayer is that the Catholic Church chooses the opportunity of reporting all sexual abusers as the Charter passed in Dallas stated. Then I pray that the Bishops will deal with the issue of homosexuality. I think you can see by the many posts from Catholics here, that we oppose homosexuality among priests.

Thanks for your reply and the tone in which it was rendered.

And remember that prayer is the answer.

[VOA]

...read what the Catholic Church officially states on the topic of Chastity and Homosexuality...

Thanks for the direct cites.
I (and most people) know this is the stance of the Catholic Church on the issue.

But, even who's not Catholic...I'm afraid that a lot of the "sheeple" will soon not
believe this is the functional policy. That's what I'm afraid of.

[VOA]

Maybe we should call a Baptist--they are generally up on ALL of scripture.

Well, I'm from the mainstream Church of Christ...graduated from one of the
colleges that would be considered an "ideological boot camp". The Baptists are just a bit
looser in legalistic scrutiny of the scriptures (in my opinion).

And even though I wasn't a religion major, I didn't encounter one hint
of homosexuality being a favorable thing despite having about 8 courses in Bible and
chapel five times a week.

If it's in there, I sure didn't find it.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

I've seen a variation of what St Athanasius said: "The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" attributed to St John Chrysostom: "The road to hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests and erring bishops are its lamp posts" and St John Eudes: "The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops"

Personally, since it was St Athanasius who dealt with the Arian heresy before St John Chrysostom was even born, I believe the quote I posted is correctly attributed to him. I believe that Chrysostom and Eudes more than likely paraphrased Athanasius. Eudes may have paraphrased Chrysostom or both may have come to virtually the same conclusion as Athanasius. The definitive answer may be hard to come by.

[Starwind]

I didn't encounter one hint of homosexuality being a favorable thing...

If it's in there

Sleep easy tonight. It isn't favorable in the bible.

The homosexual proponents are simply fabricating. No honest interpretation could ever conclude it is anything other than an abomination in God's view.

[saradippity]

For those of you who find no biblical references to the "gift" of homosexuality,I believe you are correct. However,if you think it is considered the sin spoken of in the story of Sodom and Gomorhea,you are sadly mistaken.

I have heard in three or four homilies here in Phoenix that the "sin" of the men of Sodom was-------are you ready for this-------?The sin,was,A LACK OF HOSPITALITY.Yesiree!I bet you guys have been misunderstanding those passages for years,but not our priests,and they are so pleased to share that "new take"on it with us.

[Starwind]

the "sin" of the men of Sodom was ...A LACK OF HOSPITALITY

Yikes! No more Mr. Nice Guy for me when strangers come a knockin. I don't want anyone accusing me of being "HOSPITABLE".

[Aquinasfan]

Bishop Adamec must understand that enough is enough. He should start acting like a Catholic bishop, or resign.

Great editorial. Let us know if it gets printed.

[Steve0113]

the "sin" of the men of Sodom was-------are you ready for this-------?The sin,was,A LACK OF HOSPITALITY.

I've heard that several times, too. I guess it's just a coincidence that the name of the city is the root of the word sodomy.

[ninenot]

I will consider your opinion final on the topic, insofar as you are better-educated on the Bible than I am (having gone to a Catholic college.)

BTW, nobody else I know can find any favorable references, either...so as we fisheaters say, Q.E.D. (that's Catholic code for Roma locuta est, causa finita est (Rome has spoken, the case is closed.)

On to the next Big Lie of the perverts!!!

[Siobhan]

Thanks for a terrific resource!

[COBOL2Java]

But, even who's not Catholic...I'm afraid that a lot of the "sheeple" will soon not believe this is the functional policy. That's what I'm afraid of.

You are so right. And the sodomite community tries to take advantage of this ignorance at every opportunity.

It is the responsibility of the Bishop to encourage and teach with love the Church's doctrine, and to endure the disapprobation of the liberal press and the sodomites. Look at the persecution which was heaped upon the late John Cardinal O'Connor in NYC.

[ELS]

The very fact that these words were uttered by a member of the priesthood, or flowed from his pen, leaves me disgusted and speechless.

My pastor usually avoids saying "homosexual" from the pulpit. The one time in the past several months he did say it, he immediately said he doesn't like to say it from the pulpit.

[COBOL2Java]

My pastor usually avoids saying "homosexual" from the pulpit. The one time in the past several months he did say it, he immediately said he doesn't like to say it from the pulpit.

How about "sodomite" instead?

[ELS]

Is there a Congregation of Bishops that is distinct from the Congregation of the Clergy?

[ELS]

He usually refers to the scandal indirectly or uses "perversion" or some form thereof.

[ELS]

Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons

I answered my own question. There are two distinct Congregations, as you can see on the Vatican Web site's Congregations index page. The Bishops' page only has the profile in Italian.

[Renatus]

Yes, perhaps we need a "Chesterton Project" and put quotes from the great man himself on billboards across the land.>

That's a great idea!