[First_Salute]

Bump.

[Sacajaweau]

A frog, a fine and a farce.

These environmentalists are nuts. I'm not sure what the life span of that frog was, but a bigger critter could have just as well eaten him the next week or he could have choked on a lily pad.

I believe that these folks and the "endangered species act" are infringing on the rights of property owners to develop their property according to "reasonable rules".

Somehow, America has to come to their senses. Our forefathers filled in the swamps and got rid of a lot of the diseases associated with them.They cleared a portion of the woods and turned them into farms.

It was a labor of love and sweat and tears.

These environmentalists wish to create the landscape of the past which excludes man.

That's a step backward not forward.

While I'm at it, these uncontrollable burning forests are a rude awakening to the environmentalists who go around screaming...don't touch our forests.

Let's get back to reality.

To you insane environmentalists....get a job.

Sac

[glockmeister40]

I wonder how many endangered species got barbequed in the huge wildfires in colorado and arizona?

Due to the endangered species act, timber companies were not allowed to log and this created HUGE amounts of fuel in the national forests. Nature has restored the balance, at a dreadful cost

The worst thing we can do is listen to the enviro green weenie assholes.

[JCG]

The frog is believed to be the one Mark Twain made famous in his short story ``The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County.''

Yeah, sure. First, endangered and now an historical treasure. What's next, sainthood?

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[Hacksaw]

My supervisor lives outside of NYC. On his property, there is a small man-made pond. Well, when he expanded his house and got the permits, (you guessed it) he had to go through hoops with his local wetlands comminsion.

Before they came out to inspect it, he cut down several trees around the pond and used a backhoe to rip out the stumps. He said he wouldn't have been allowed to touch them if the commission knew they were there.

[cgbg]

Gee, I wonder why California real estate is so expensive?

[BillofRights]

Doesn't that evil capitalist understand that frog rights supersede property rights?

[luigi]

The frog is believed to be the one Mark Twain made famous in his short story ``The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County.''

That was one old frog.

[BillofRights]

Our census takers complained that they could not get an accurate count of the homeless people living under the bridges in Austin, Texas, but these government environmentalists can get an accurate census on the number of these frogs living in the world? What a bad joke -- a con job to destroy private property rights!

[AAABEST]

Ping.

Anyone wanna bet me that the Nazi-freak caught a frog, killed it and put it there?

Starting fires wasn't his thing.

[American Preservative]

In-our-backyard-"ribbet-ribbet"-article ping. : )

(I-o-b meaning in the Bay Area.)

[Grampa Dave]

Real life Red Legged Frog, Kali Fish and Game and the Federal Wildlife Nazis event this year. Please don't read if you have coffee or other liquids in your mouth or a hammer like object near your computer monitor.

A fellow that I know owns some rental commericial property by an airport in N. Kali. All the permits were done at considerable costs and time before construction was started. Fish and Game people visited the area before, during and after construction. He and other investors built an office complex, warehouse complex and clean industry complex last year during a drought year on this approved site.

What they didn't know, was that a seasonal creek could flood over during both high rain and high tide times. This flooded the parking lots and access roads.

They wanted to put in seasonal color sandbags along the creek bed to prevent the flooding. The fish and game nazis said that a survey would have to be done to see if red legged frogs lived in this seasonal creek area.

The property owners hired an enviral group recommended by the eco game nazis. After an expensive survey this enviral group said that were no red legged frogs nor any evidence that they had ever lived in this area.

Flash forward to a closed door meeting with the enviral game nazis (state/fed). The land owners were told that even though no Red Legged Frogs lived on that property or left evidence in the past. They could not put out the seasonal sandbags.

The reason, careful now, remove all hammer like objects from around your monitor and make sure nothing is in your mouth besides your tongue and teeth:

They could not seasonally sandbag as this was an area that the red legged frog might like to inhabit now or in the future! Anyone caught sandbagging the creek even in a flood would be arrested, fined and charged with serious violations of the EPA act to protect critters real or not.

[Dr. Frank fan]

Sacred frog!

Must not despoil the Land of the Sacred Frog!

Why do I get the feeling our society has subtly lapsed into Greek-style paganism? The EPA (Oracle of Sacred Critters) has spoken: Must not build there.

[gilor]

"authorities said a department of Fish and Game warden found a dead California red-legged frog on the site"

Probably it was crushed by a SUV!!!

BAN all SUV's!!!

[Northpaw]

department of Fish and Game warden

Some of these will end up being found dead on developer's property if this idiocy continues.

[balrog666]

Now that's a jury I wish I could sit on.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

CAJUN FROG LEGS its whats for dinner! YUMMMMMMMY

[Robert A Cook PE]

OH MY MAGOG!

A frog died in CA .... on a developed area.

.... Therefore, we must arrest the developer.

(Do these enviro's ever consider that frogs die all the time in the wild?)

[RightWhale]

The frog is believed to be the one Mark Twain made famous in his short story

That frog is very old for a frog, and seems to have gotten pretty far all things considered.

[Jhoffa_]

.. authorities said a department of Fish and Game warden found a dead California red-legged frog on the site last year.

I don't believe them. I just flat don't believe them.

Why not just have the nutcases come out and certify the land as developable and then allow that to be that?

Honestly, after the lynx hair boondoggle I can see these guy's driving around construction sites with a cooler full of dead frogs.

Truthfully, if you let lefties run around trying to "discover" an endangered species on job sites with the understanding that if they do find one that the developer is fried and the development itself will probably be shut down then rest asured they will "find" them as often as possible.

Also, aside from the enviro nuts it could open the door to blackmail. Can't you hear someone threatning a developer with an "endangered species" that could kill his whole investment unless he pays up? I don't think that scenario is out of the question at all.

Let them certify the land as free of protected critters and leave it at that. No "discovering" stuff after the deal is sealed and the ground is broken.