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Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 25
06/30/02 - Sunday | Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 25

Posted on 06/29/2002 10:31:42 PM PDT by stlnative

Please keep adding 6/30/02 Elizabeth Smart dated updates to this thread...
Remember to keep checking back to this thread today for today's developing news on the Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping.


Some people may consider today to actually be day 26, but I count 1 day for each
24 hours that have passed since Elizabeth was kidnapped. Elizabeth was taken from her home
at about 1:30am on the morning of June 5th, 2002.


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Please send me a "Private Reply" with your request... Please do not post a "Public Thread
Request" as I may accidently overlook it. Also you can click here to visit
my profile page and to view the list of people on my Ping List's.
People on my Elizabeth Smart Ping List will only receive ONE ping
daily from me at the beginning of the thread each day. This single ping will help you find the daily Elizabeth Smart thread faster
when you check your own "My Comment's" FR feature. If something large breaks in the case during
the day I will send out a new ping to everyone on my Ping List. Something breaking to me is if they find
Elizabeth or actually arrest a person for kidnapping her. It is up to you to visit this thread several times daily
as others and I will continue to add the latest breaking news reports as they are released throughout the day.

Links

Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 24
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 23
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 22
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 21
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 20
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 19
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 18
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 17
Salt Lake City Police Department Website
FBI Kidnappings/Critical Missing Persons - Elizabeth Smart
FBI - Salt Lake City Branch
Elizabeth Smart Website
Smart Residence Real Estate Listing
Brigette's Scanned Copy of House Layout from Newsweek Magazine
(Please do not link to the picture on my server space, if you wish to use it...
copy and paste it to your own hard drive and move it to your own server space)


Short Timeline



May 30th, 2002 -Thursday
~ Ricci returns to pick up his Jeep at the auto repair shop before the shop has a chance to fully fix it
He tells the repairman that it needed for an emergency.

June 4th, 2002 - Tuesday
~ Ricci is at work from about 9am to 5:30pm
~ Ricci claims he spends the evening with friends

June 5th, 2002 - Wednesday
~ 1:05am - 2 cars are spotted on the SLC Shriner's Hospital Parking Lot by a hospital security guard
~ 1:30am (approx) - Elizabeth is kidnapped from her home
~ 1:30am - Ricci claims to be in bed asleep with his with wife.
~ Ricci is scheduled to be off work all day today.
~ 8:30am - Ricci and his neighbor talk about the kidnapping of Elizabeth, Ricci seems to know too much information about it.
~ Sometime during this day Ricci is visited by police in regards to Elizabeth's kidnapping as reported by Angela Ricci (Richard A. Ricci's Wife which is an ex-convict herself)
~ Ricci is seen by his neighbor digging a hole by his (Ricci's) trailer early in the morning. (heard the neighbor say this on TV)

June 6th, 2002 - Thursday
~ Ricci is scheduled to work from 9am to 5:30pm today, but instead works from 10:30am to 7:00pm
~ Police talk to Ricci this day about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping. (The media is reporting this, so it could be wrong)

June 8th, 2002 - Saturday
~ Ricci returns the Jeep to the repair shop to get it fix. The Jeep is muddy and the repair shop owner sees Ricci
remove seat covers from the back of the jeep and place them into a plastic garbage bag that already contains
other stuff in it. Also the repair shop owner said a muddy post hole digger tool was in the back of the Jeep, Ricci removes
this also from the Jeep. Ricci has a man waiting across the street to give him a ride. Ricci takes the plastic bag
and contents along with the post hole digger with him. Also there is 500 to 1000 extra miles on the Jeep since
Ricci picked it up on May 30th, 2002.

June 14th, 2002 - Friday
~ Ricci is taken into custody for a parole violation, this being the 2001 robbery of the Smart Home in which he admitted to.



A note to the people who read this thread because they hope and pray that Elizabeth will be returned to her family and who wish to stay up to date with the facts in the case. Please do not let yourself get sucked into a heavy HEATED discussion or argument from someone who wishes to come on this thread and make posts that will disrupt this thread. The best thing to do it not to bring attention to these post or reply to them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elizabethsmart; kidnapping; missingpersons; richardalbertricci; utah
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To: MadisonA
yes, dna yields a sex determination, in some cases more than one wants to know.....
261 posted on 06/30/2002 8:10:50 PM PDT by philomath
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To: PoisedWoman
volunteers will spend the weekend searching in Bountiful, Centerville and Draper for any trace of the girl.

Where's that and why are they looking there?

Centerville is where the stolen plates from Edmunds car were found, Draper is the area of a lot of new homes and construction, don't know why they are searching Bountiful, except that communities are still searching areas.

I think the police are waiting for forensics to come back with information about the items taken from Ricci's car and trailer. The police have to look at Ricci, there are waaaaay too many coincidences. I don't think he abducted Elizabeth, I do believe though that Ricci contributed knowledge of the home to whoever took her...

262 posted on 06/30/2002 8:11:02 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: sandude
So when the police said that it may have been someone trusted by Elizabeth they may have already been looking at Ricci.

I can't believe you would introduce logic and common sense into this thread when there are so many wild theories floating around.

263 posted on 06/30/2002 8:12:18 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: IamHD; Vinomori
I don't know about the track coach, Utah is pretty careful to screen their teachers for that type of thing.

You have a great holiday also this week. I'm on vacation, we have a family cabin up east of Heber (about 45 minutes east of SLC), I plan on going up for a few days this week and vegging out. I'm going to read and cook, and walk. No computer and an unlisted phone number, sounds like heaven to me. :)

264 posted on 06/30/2002 8:14:17 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Jolly Green
Actually, if I remember correctly, the police did not originally say "Someone trusted by Elizabeth". They said, "A trusted member of the community".

I don't know if they've restated it or not, but Ricci would hardly qualify as a trusted member of the community.
265 posted on 06/30/2002 8:14:34 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: philomath
Ok....lets look at the options on how there would be blood evidence...cut himself on the screen, bit by Elizabeth struggling....did police ever say if a knife was missing in the kitchen?...then he would had to have his own to cut the screen.
266 posted on 06/30/2002 8:16:22 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: TheDon
I'm sorry people took your thread wrong. I was thinking more specifically of the NE thread the other day, those people who believe the NE stories hook, line, and sinker as the CT folks...
267 posted on 06/30/2002 8:18:20 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: sandude
Good observation.
268 posted on 06/30/2002 8:21:41 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Plummz
My I now start rolling me eyes? The Mormon church stopped Boylan from coming to SLC to do a sketch of the abductor? Why? I'm LDS, and I want Elizabeth to come home. IF (and that is a huge IF) someone in the Smart family is responsible, it will be horrible. But how would the Mormon church's image be besmirched, other than a criminal used the church to shield himself? Believe you me, if that happens, that person will wish he never did that.

As far as Marc Klaas goes, there are two schools of thinking. I don't really care one or the other if the family doesn't want Boylan to sketch the perps face. What I do care about is Klaas going on TV and blasting the family for not taking his advice, and insintuating that they are like Susan Smith, "because Susan Smith is the only one to turn down Boylan's offer to come sketch the perp's face." That is what I object to, that and the fact that Klaas needs to make clear if he is there as a reporter or someone trying to help the family find a lost child. Sorry, but he can't have it both ways.

269 posted on 06/30/2002 8:25:55 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: philomath
Starting with such a large pool of potential suspects, resources are spread pretty thin, but as the police are able to eliminate people from the pool, certain individuals start to draw more attention as they are unable to eliminate them. If Ricci is not involved the police are wasting alot of resources on him. Of course, even so, if they should finally determine he is not involved, that is progress in the investigation. One more potential suspect eliminated.
270 posted on 06/30/2002 8:27:18 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: MadisonA
Hey, it could even be Ricci's, he worked there before. Wouldn't that be interesting.
271 posted on 06/30/2002 8:29:06 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: mystery-ak
polygraphs don't mean anything. (I'm not speaking about the wife but people in general) The guilty can pass and innocents sometimes fail.
272 posted on 06/30/2002 8:32:15 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Jolly Green
Ah, the Bella conspiracy theory rears its head again! (I think I'll run a count.)

Too bad you can't add 1+1.

273 posted on 06/30/2002 8:33:55 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Jolly Green
I think you are grasping at straws with this. The mechanic said a woman called saying it was an emergency and they needed the car. He said he asked her when he would be paid. ****It's quite likely the mechanic put the key over the visor or on top of the left front wheel - a common practice for small garages when their customer can't make it in before they close. The vehicle wasn't there the next morning so it "disappeared" - a word usage easily explained by his translating his native language into English.****(and your comment here is not grasping at straws????, pure speculation...I know what I heard from the mans mouth during 2 interviews he did) Another point that flies in the face of some of the wild speculation on this topic, is something called a mechanic's lien which exists in Utah as well as most states. A mechanic making a repair on someones car is entitled to be paid. That is the law. If they are not paid in a timely manner, they can file a mechanic's lien with the state. If they still are not paid, the state will issue a clear title to the mechanic.

In other words, what could possibly motivate the mechanic to frame Ricci? Nothing, absolutely nothing. I never said that I thought the Mechanic was lying or was trying to frame Ricci. I said he sounds confused and if he told the grand jury one version and then told the media another or conflicting versions, this leaves his story wide open for an attorney to poke holes in it

Now I am not reading further down the thread yet as I post this reply to you, but I am hoping that before you posted your thoughts here that you would have read further down why I was posting this strange fact of the mechanic's story has not been the same. And too top all this off, I believe in facts and hard evidence. I DON'T think Ricci is the guy now at this time, because so far everything can be explained away.

274 posted on 06/30/2002 8:34:13 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Bella; mystery-ak
The FBI has been canvassing the Smart neighborhood, twice that I know of, doing surveys, etc. Why didn't the neighbor mention the screeching tires and scream to them?
275 posted on 06/30/2002 8:39:43 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Lanza
I don't know if Ricci has been married before, but he did lose a son to a car accident (I think the son was hit by a car), the son died. I don't know how many times Angela Ricci has been married, but I have heard she always hooked up with ex-cons.
276 posted on 06/30/2002 8:42:10 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Lanza
Oops, I forgot to say that Angela and Richard Ricci just got married last Valentine's Day, no kids together.
277 posted on 06/30/2002 8:42:54 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: FR_addict
The police have stated that the first phone call from the Smarts was to the police. I've heard a neighbor of the Smarts say that Ed Smart called them, she and her husband leaped out of bed, got dressed, and went directly to the Smarts' home, and the police tape indicating a crime scene was already there. The police say it took about seven minutes to respond I do believe, Ed Smart says it felt like forever...
278 posted on 06/30/2002 8:45:52 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Actually, if you read the article, the police did interview the neighbor that morning.
279 posted on 06/30/2002 8:47:03 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon
Oh, OK. Well then why is everyone saying "why haven't the police talked to the neighbor?" Or is it just me?
280 posted on 06/30/2002 8:49:58 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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