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28 Nabbed by Feds at Fort Worth Site (Possible Terrorist Link)
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | June 29, 2002 | Deanna Boyd

Posted on 06/29/2002 6:27:07 AM PDT by demkicker

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To: demkicker
"The picture that is often painted is (that) these are negative people, but in this case, though some of them may be, it certainly wasn't all of them. They were very hardworking, very professional people who, yes, had bad documents."

Barbara Streisand.

Employers who fail to confirm the legal status of employees should spend time in prison, IMO.

41 posted on 06/29/2002 9:23:56 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: demkicker
Neighbors and family are always telling us how nice the criminals are, how shocked they are. Well, I've heard it said that bin Laden is a very gentle, generous man.

Over three thousand TRULY nice, unsuspecting people are dead, because of gentle bin Laden and folks like those hard working aviation mechanics.

There's a huge difference between thinking and feeling. Feelings say how awful, that murderer just got married. Thinking says I'm pi$$ed because I got taken in by that turkey.

42 posted on 06/29/2002 9:39:29 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: browardchad
Thanks for the info on Spirit Airlines...I HOPE the government isn't going to guarantee them ANYTHING while the sweep of their employees is going on.
43 posted on 06/29/2002 9:42:50 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"Employers who fail to confirm the legal status of employees should spend time in prison, IMO."

You know, such an incentive is a pretty darned good idea. At the very least, penalties should include IMMEDIATE cut-off of all government funding, INCLUDING emergency funding, as with the post 9-11 Airline bailout, with stiff fines on top of it. A federal regulation like that IS an incentive....airlines...no...ANYTHING which falls under the pervue of the FAA OR DEPARTMENT of Transportation should be included in this....you hire people in these national security sensitive industries without proper checks of documentation, you get shut down. You do it right, and you DON'T get shut down.

44 posted on 06/29/2002 9:50:29 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: TEXASPROUD
FYI Ping, kaping, kablouie bang bang bang.......check six !

Stay Safe !

45 posted on 06/29/2002 10:02:28 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: bok
Why doesn't washington secure the unguarded border?

The border is quite open now but Bush fully intends to open it even further by allowing Mexican trucks full access to every part of the US. There should be limitations to trucks from both Mexico and Canada, both borders need to be secured.

46 posted on 06/29/2002 10:04:12 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: demkicker
They were very hardworking, very professional people who, yes, had bad documents.

It's considered a felony if it's American citizens presenting false identification to commit a crime. We need to expand this to foreigners too. These are felons, all foreigners using forged and stolen Social Security numbers are committing felony crimes. They use them to obtain American jobs and American welfare benefits which places most of the 8 million illegals apart from a few who work for cash and don't present false papers into a felon category.

47 posted on 06/29/2002 10:09:08 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
"It's considered a felony if it's American citizens presenting false identification to commit a crime. We need to expand this to foreigners too"

I personally no of no country on Earth where it is LEGAL to present false documents. Therefore, they know that already. If these people were truly honest, they wouldn't have DONE it.

48 posted on 06/29/2002 10:19:33 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: freeperfromnj
Wonder how many other airlines have illegals working as airplane mechanics.

Or checking baggage. . .

49 posted on 06/29/2002 10:26:29 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Bill Davis FR
Detroit has the largest "muzzie" inside this country.....at least it did years ago...maybe someplace else has passed that milestone.
50 posted on 06/29/2002 10:31:51 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: cake_crumb
"I personally no of no country "

I NO of no???

Administering stinging smack up side of own head now...we now return you to the regular replies on this thread.

51 posted on 06/29/2002 10:33:05 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: demkicker
"I feel sorry for the good people -- the good workers," the mechanic said. "They work for money. Everybody works for money and to put food on the table."

Yeah, and so did the 2,823 people in the WTC.

52 posted on 06/29/2002 10:44:05 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Ann Archy
Nope. Michigan, the Dearborn area, has the largest concentration of Muslims in the United States.
53 posted on 06/29/2002 10:44:51 AM PDT by rintense
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To: browardchad
Meanwhile, the Justice Department has not told the INS to turn back or detain Middle Easterners entering the U.S. with flight-school visas – not even those from countries that sponsor terrorism, such as Syria.

Is there no sanity left in this world? Can we AT LEAST stop training pilots from terrorist supporting countries? Are we worried about hurting their feelings or what? Sheesh!

54 posted on 06/29/2002 11:00:49 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: rintense
"Michigan, the Dearborn area, has the largest concentration of Muslims in the United States."

Maybe they all decided to re-migrate from Detroit?

55 posted on 06/29/2002 11:12:21 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
"Seems to me if SOME of their documents were fraudluent, all of their documents could be fraudulant....and just about anything can be forged."

Now, now, you are coming off as WAY too logical. :)
56 posted on 06/29/2002 11:30:27 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: demkicker
"Now, now, you are coming off as WAY too logical. :)"

LOL....apologies where necessary <G>

57 posted on 06/29/2002 11:34:01 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb; rintense; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Shermy; seamole; Clovis_Skeptic; ...
There are over 600,000 people working for the airlines and airports that have not had a security background check.

It would probably take two to 4 weeks for each individual to be vetted even halfway correctly.

I can tell you that combinations of some of the talented young people with border patrol, a few INS people, FBI and local police forces have been at work on this task since 9/11. It is a tremendous job thanks to another legacy from Jake Reno and her Bubba Bro, the Clintoon.

Until this mess is straightened up, I can't be for pilots carrying weapons on board. First we have to run the background security on every member of the flight crews, the cabin crews, and anyone who can enter or touch those planes just with the airlines. Then, the same has to be done with the airport personnel.

Once this job is done, we can let our pilots arm themselves and carry weapons on board. Until then, there are too many questions out there not investigated.

The Jake Reno/Bubba Clinton legacy continues to haunt us in every way imaginable and some ways unimaginable.
58 posted on 06/29/2002 11:39:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: WaterDragon
"Neighbors and family are always telling us how nice the criminals are, how shocked they are. Well, I've heard it said that bin Laden is a very gentle, generous man."

I, too, am sick of the "they're so nice" idiot remarks. Only fools come to conclusions based on their feelings. Others who defend those who break the law may as well be accomplices. There is no justification, period.
59 posted on 06/29/2002 11:40:24 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: TomGuy; Marine Inspector; Ajnin; Squantos; Sabertooth
Creating, selling buying and using "bad documents" has to be elevated to a class one felony on a level with selling heroin.

The next Mohammed Atta may walk in through Mexico or Canada, and can today pick up all the bogus papers he needs in any American city for a few $100.

The bad papers dealers need to be put out of business. I hope the "open borders" crowd recognizes the danger!

60 posted on 06/29/2002 12:00:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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