[Hard_Pill_To_Swallow]

" I don't care if they don't say those words...they can omit them if they want. Always could IMHO. "

What other parts of the Pledge can you leave out? Is it still the Pledge of Allegiance?


" Their choice...to my knowledge nobody ever stopped a pledge if someone wasn't saying it, or wasn't saying part of it and forced them to say it. Just don't force me not to say them. "

Any atheist saying the sacred oath of U.S. citizenship is guilty of perjury! You clearly love liberty, but you don't seem very concerned about justice for all.


" Don't tell me it's unconstitutional to say them. I'll fight that tooth and nail. "

I agree with you wholeheartedly and I'll fight shoulder to shoulder with you. It is not unconstitutional to say them. You can make any oath you like, including the Pledge of Allegiance. The difference is that the constitutional version of the Pledge does not require anyone to perjure themselves.

[Jeff Head]

Your arguemnts are without merit. Where is it required to perjure themselves? You only perjure yourself in a court of la, when supplying evidence. The pledge is not applicable in such an environment. Like I said, don't say those portions if they do not want to.

Who said anything about the pledge being a constitutionally required anything? The judge is trying to side with an activist individual and make it unconstitutional. Once again, no one is forcing anyone to say it. Just giving those the opportunity who desire to do so.

[Jeff Head]

Oops!

You only perjure yourself in a court of la, when supplying evidence.

Should be:

You only perjure yourself in a court of law, when supplying testimony. In fact I believe there is a congressional statute on record making it illegal for anyone to force someone to say the pledge.