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To: Hard_Pill_To_Swallow
Your arguemnts are without merit. Where is it required to perjure themselves? You only perjure yourself in a court of la, when supplying evidence. The pledge is not applicable in such an environment. Like I said, don't say those portions if they do not want to.

Who said anything about the pledge being a constitutionally required anything? The judge is trying to side with an activist individual and make it unconstitutional. Once again, no one is forcing anyone to say it. Just giving those the opportunity who desire to do so.

87 posted on 09/27/2002 8:59:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Perjury, like most words, has several senses. Perjury can mean what you said, but in the more general sense, it means breaching an oath.

Suppose an atheist were to pledge allegiance to a nation "under God", a God he does not believe exists. This is clearly a breach of an oath. The Pledge of Allegiance is not just something you say before the teacher calls roll. Naturalized citizens say the Pledge as their first act of citizenship. It is a sacred oath and belongs to every citizen, atheists included.

As you so charitably stated, atheists can choose not to say the Pledge, but this is no different from being forced not to say the Pledge. If they choose to say it, they will be lying, so this is not a choice at all. If the two words "under God" are taken out of the Pledge, no U.S. citizen will be committing perjury when they say the Pledge.
89 posted on 09/28/2002 2:00:09 AM PDT by Hard_Pill_To_Swallow
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