[Jeff Head]

I don't care if they don't say those words ... they can ommit them if they want. Always could IMHO. Their choice ... to my knowledge nobody ever stopped a pledge if someone wasn't saying it, or wasn't saying part of it and forced them to say it.

Just don't force me not to say them. Don't tell me it's unconstitutiomnal to say them. I'll fight that tooth and nail.

[Hard_Pill_To_Swallow]

" I don't care if they don't say those words...they can omit them if they want. Always could IMHO. "

What other parts of the Pledge can you leave out? Is it still the Pledge of Allegiance?


" Their choice...to my knowledge nobody ever stopped a pledge if someone wasn't saying it, or wasn't saying part of it and forced them to say it. Just don't force me not to say them. "

Any atheist saying the sacred oath of U.S. citizenship is guilty of perjury! You clearly love liberty, but you don't seem very concerned about justice for all.


" Don't tell me it's unconstitutional to say them. I'll fight that tooth and nail. "

I agree with you wholeheartedly and I'll fight shoulder to shoulder with you. It is not unconstitutional to say them. You can make any oath you like, including the Pledge of Allegiance. The difference is that the constitutional version of the Pledge does not require anyone to perjure themselves.