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Rodino faults ruling on Pledge of Allegiance
The Record of Hackensack ^ | 6.28.02

Posted on 06/28/2002 1:00:32 PM PDT by Coleus

Rodino faults ruling on pledge

Friday, June 28, 2002

Associated Press

NEWARK - A former New Jersey congressman who co-sponsored a 1954 measure that added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance says a federal appeals court was wrong to conclude that the phrase makes the pledge unconstitutional.

In a 2-1 decision issued Wednesday, a panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the phrase "one nation under God" amounts to a government endorsement of religion in violation of the separation of church and state.

Peter Rodino, 93, a Democrat from West Orange who served in the House of Representatives for 40 years, criticized the ruling, saying there is a distinction between that principle and the words "under God" in the pledge.

"That phrase is inspirational - a reaching out for certain ideals," Rodino said in a report published Thursday. "In reciting it, we do not intend to set up a government that is governed by any particular religion or religious proclamation."

Congress inserted "under God" at the height of the Cold War after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, religious leaders, and others who wanted to distinguish the United States from what they regarded as godless communism.

The appeals court ruling does not take effect for several months, to allow further appeals. The government can ask the full circuit court to reconsider, or take its case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The 9th Circuit covers Alaska, Arizona, California, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington State. Those are the only states directly affected by the ruling.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: catholic; knightsofcolumbus; newjersey; pledgeofallegiance
The Knights of Columbus Knights of Columbus played a large part with the addition of the words "Under God" added to the Pledge Allegiance. As Peter Rodino stated, we were at the height of the cold war with the USSR where the practice of religion was against the law. Many priests and other religious were executed by the communists, who were athiests.
1 posted on 06/28/2002 1:00:32 PM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 06/28/2002 1:01:11 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
we were at the height of the cold war with the USSR where the practice of religion was against the law

And now we're at war against radical Islamism, which also makes the worship of God (other than Allah) against their laws.

3 posted on 06/28/2002 1:04:58 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Coleus
Bump to the top.
4 posted on 06/28/2002 1:05:07 PM PDT by Salvation
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Can anyone tell me where in the Constitution there is a separation of church and state? There is a freedom of religion, but nowhere can I find a forbiddance of religion. Where did the cockameeny idea originate that government was supposed to forbid religion in its structure?

I thought that atheism fit the definition of religion because it is a belief. Does the Constitution specify that the United States should establish atheism?

I wouild be the first to object if this little atheist girl in Kalifornica was forced to utter the Pledge against her will. She could have went to the hallway until the Pledge was over. To deprive the remainder of her class the opportunity to exercise their beliefs is criminal.

5 posted on 06/28/2002 1:33:41 PM PDT by meenie
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Good on for Rodino!

"...by the communists, who were athiests."

...And who have, in these latter days, essentially co-opted Rodino's old party.

6 posted on 06/28/2002 1:34:28 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Coleus
Bump!

Related post:

The man behind the phrase frets -- Peter Rodino, co-sponsor of 'under God' addition

7 posted on 06/28/2002 1:53:27 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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If "under God" was incorporated to differentiate the religious United States from the atheistic Soviet Union, now that our main enemy is radical Islam, which sees no distinction between church and state, shouldn't we differentiate ourselves from them by not mixing government and religion?
8 posted on 06/28/2002 2:59:44 PM PDT by reasonseeker
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To: Incorrigible
Ooops, guess I should have done a better search before posting.
9 posted on 06/28/2002 3:19:35 PM PDT by Coleus
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Here is another related link pointing out that the Knights of Columbus and President Eisenhower had a lot to do with "Under God" being put into the Pledge of Allegiance.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - NEW INFORMATION

10 posted on 06/28/2002 3:24:40 PM PDT by Coleus
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So, in other words, because the radical Islamists believe in God or Allah, and they are our enemy, we should abandon all reference to God in order to distinguish ourselves from the radical Islamists? By this logic, if the Islamists believed in cutting off people's left hands in order to force them to be right-handed, we should cut off our right hands in order to distinguish ourselves from them?...

Can't the fact that we believe in a loving God of justice and mercy be enough to distinguish us from the god of the Islamists which feeds off the violence perpetrated by its adherents?

As I stated on another thread here, the recognition that this is a nation "under God" is less the establishment of religion, and more an historical fact. Our nation was formed by the foundation that "all men are CREATED equal" and that they are "endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights" -- rights not created or granted by the whim of the state, but rights bestowed upon man by God. This is a critically important distinction. Eliminate this concept of God-given rights from the basis of our society and values, and what we have to revert to are rights and liberties that are derived from the power of the state -- and the state will always have the power to take those rights away.

The founders clearly acknowledged that this was a nation founded "under God" or Providence. The atheists may not like it, but this is historical fact, and as Americans who love their country, they should be willing to acknowledge that historical fact.

11 posted on 06/28/2002 3:30:46 PM PDT by My2Cents
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The One True God is whom we refer to here in America, no moon-god. And it is always about religion, people don't want others' religions, but our pledge is talking about honoring the One who created all and set boundaries and brought forth nations. The rebellious crowd hopes to stay unaccountable to the Great I AM; one way is to say that all reference to HIM is unconstitutional. A childish way to stay in a dangerous position.
12 posted on 07/01/2002 8:00:29 PM PDT by Hila
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To: My2Cents
The One True God is whom we refer to here in America, no moon-god. And it is always about religion, people don't want others' religions, but our pledge is talking about honoring the One who created all and set boundaries and brought forth nations. The rebellious crowd hopes to stay unaccountable to the Great I AM; one way is to say that all reference to HIM is unconstitutional. A childish way to stay in a dangerous position.
13 posted on 07/01/2002 8:01:34 PM PDT by Hila
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