5 rules for (CCW) Concealed Carry Weapon

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[waterstraat]

So avoid all those new tiny .32 semis.

I cant think of anyone, EVER!, who was shot 3 times in the chest, and 3 times in the face, with a Beretta Tomcat shooting winchester silvertips that would voluntar to be shot again by a .32.

Would YOU?, not be afraid of someone who is pointing a Beretta Tomcat at your face??

Do you have ANY statistics on how many criminals were undeterred after being shot 6 times with .32 winchester silvertips?

[CHICAGOFARMER]

RogueIsland said

The acquaintance had a concealed hangun on him at the time and at some point in the incident the other person noticed the firearm (I think with all the confusion and fuss, the man's shirt rode up for a moment over the revolver grip protruding from the IWB holster).

So the angry motorist decided to tell the cops he was "threatened with a gun" by this guy.

Chicagofarmer said

Yep you are right. Cry, scream, lie, false statements is SOP with liberals and non gun society.

Never Never reveal your weapon but errors occur. Definately Witnesses are your friends, treat them right.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

"KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON."

"IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!"

"DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL."

"DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU." "YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

Although these are very good rules to live by for concealed carry in the heat of the moment no one person can know how she or he will act at the time of engagment if your going to conceal carry follow these rules but above all of them THINK BEFORE YOU ACT

[CHICAGOFARMER]

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[Rollee]

You wrote: It has probably saved me a lot of hassles with former anti-gun co-workers. Most of them had already branded me as the resident right-wing kook, and I didn't need to give them anymore ammo...

Thank you for the tip! My family thinks I am their "resident right-wing kook" and are freaked out by me. I have had many prolonged and frustrating 2nd Amendment/RTKBA discussions with them and they still refuse to even try to remotely understand the facts. So, I give up. I know now to save myself from potential hassles with co-workers. What is that line about beating dead horses?

[CHICAGOFARMER]

You said

Although these are very good rules to live by for concealed carry in the heat of the moment no one person can know how she or he will act at the time of engagment if your going to conceal carry follow these rules but above all of them THINK BEFORE YOU ACT

I say

That is right. But if you are so fearful for your life then Item A B and C are in place. If you can't think and handle responsibility then you should leave your self defense at home. Police officer train for the moment, and so should you. If you have not, then you are more dangerous than someone who trains regularly.

chicagofarmer

[pocat]

Notice I said "former" co-workers. The place I work at now is owned and run by a right-wing conservative family. Guns are bought, sold and traded freely on company property. It's a normal part of the environment (which it should be everywhere). As I type this, I'm gearing up for a paintball war tomorrow at work. This is one of the reasons I took this job.

Yes, leave the dead horse alone. My parents and I don't even speak now over different issues. One of them is my "rebellious" attitude against "government authority." They believe that everyone should submit to every government whim without question. Save yourself and those you love closest to you and forget about the rest. Often, we assume that everyone shares the same philosophies as us because ours is based on LOGIC and common sense. Sadly, that's not always the case.

[TheGrimReaper]

A note about ammunition:
Many Texas CCP instructors advise that "soft-point" or hollow-point shells be kept in your weapon, especially for home defense/protection.
If you use a solid projectile, it has the potential to pass through an intruder and do some damage/injury to a neighbor or passer-by. Judges and juries just may be screwy enough to find you liable for such collateral damage, even though your original decision to use lethal force was completely justified.
As goofy as it may seem, I have only hollow-point ammo for all my firearms.
TGR, TX CCP

[CHICAGOFARMER]

To GrimReaper

Many Texas CCP instructors advise that "soft-point" or hollow-point shells be kept in your weapon, especially for home defense/protection.
If you use a solid projectile, it has the potential to pass through an intruder and do some damage/injury to a neighbor or passer-by. Judges and juries just may be screwy enough to find you liable for such collateral damage, even though your original decision to use lethal force was completely justified.

Chicagofaremer says.

Yep. I will probably never never fire my weapon for self defense. I am working with a company that sells equipment to police departments. Long story short, our conversation has come around to using bean bags in 12 guage shotguns. It will put a man down. It provides protection to family and neighbors and self. I am seriously considering a home 12 guage defense.

For the road soft points are the choice.

[safisoft]

DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL

Not true in the great State of North Carolina. Our permits are for CONCEALED weapons. You need no permit to wear a weapon openly. The only thing approaching this in North Carolina is that DRAWING, or UNCONCEALING a weapon in the presence of a LEO unless by his/her request should be done carefully. Diplaying a weapon is actually not uncommon in some places here. HOLDING a weapon in threatening way is another story.

Displaying an NRA sticker is currently legal, but with the bent toward pin-headed Judges these days who knows if this will be lumped in at some future date...

[Rollee]

I am happy for the fortunate change in your employment. I am starting a new career (real estate) where I can work as an indepent contractor. The independence is the best part of the job. Your advice about the dead horse is good. Good luck to you!!

[Centurion2000]

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[Copernicus]

It is surprising this appears on the JPFO website, I will research this.

The mentality expressed in these rules reflect the slow slide into barbarism that has brought both England and Australia among others to their current low estate.

The emphasis on the "duty to retreat" and the notion guns are intrinsically dangerous as inanimate objects and thus must be carefully concealed up to and including avoidance of fanny packs and vests reflects a desire on the part of the writer to inculcate fear and hesitation in the mind of the law abiding gunowner rather than focus on the savage violence criminals visit on the unsuspecting and unprepared.

Within living memory concealed weapons were considered the mark of the dishonest and criminal and many states and regions both encouraged and required "open carry" or visible display of weapons by the owner.

In modern times concealed carry has two primary advantages:

1.It foils many attempts by muggers and thugs to disarm their victims with a pre-emptive assault.

2. It creates the proper atmosphere of uncertainty in potential assailants as they are unable to easily discern who is armed and who is unarmed.

The only standard by which a thoroughly civilized society should measure gunownership is the standard upheld by the tiny state of Vermont where guns are carried, stored, transported,transfered or handled without penalty up until they are used in a criminal act at which point the state enacts severe penalties against the perpetrator.

In real life assaults it is frequently impossible to expeditiously determine the level of threat offered by a potential assailant.

In fact, Professor John Lott has documented between 1-2 MILLION ASSAULTS A YEAR are averted when a firearm is displayed by the potential victim of a crime. No shots are ever fired and no injuries are sustained by either the attacker or attackee.

Politically correct government officials who seek to pad their resumes by charging innocent taxpaying,property owning,law abiding citizens with busywork violations of law should be summarily removed from office and never allowed to work in government for the rest of their lives.

This entire list of rules carries with it the embedded premise that the "gun control state of mind is good" and Sovereign Citizens in a Representative Constitutional Republic are bad.

This embedded premise should not be endorsed,approved or encouraged.

Best regards,

[CHICAGOFARMER]

to safisoft

Not true in the great State of North Carolina. Our permits are for CONCEALED weapons. You need no permit to wear a weapon openly. The only thing approaching this in North Carolina is that DRAWING, or UNCONCEALING a weapon in the presence of a LEO unless by his/her request should be done carefully. Diplaying a weapon is actually not uncommon in some places here. HOLDING a weapon in threatening way is another story.

Displaying an NRA sticker is currently legal, but with the bent toward pin-headed Judges these days who knows if this will be lumped in at some future date...

chicagofarmer says

Isn't the state of NC just great for CCW. We here in IL just have the safe neighborhood act. Carry unloaded in a case. That means a fanny pack and unloaded but loaded clip.

We could use your help anytime you see Mayor Daley of Chicago and is crew rant about disarming citizens.

Thanks for hte help

chicagofarmer

[CHICAGOFARMER]

You said

Politically correct government officials who seek to pad their resumes by charging innocent taxpaying,property owning,law abiding citizens with busywork violations of law should be summarily removed from office and never allowed to work in government for the rest of their lives.

This entire list of rules carries with it the embedded premise that the "gun control state of mind is good" and Sovereign Citizens in a Representative Constitutional Republic are bad.

This embedded premise should not be endorsed,approved or encouraged.

Best regards,

Chicagofarmer says thank you for your comments.

[An American!]

Just found this excellent concealed weapon article. thank you.

[JusticePiece]

Nothing smaller than 9mm

[JusticePiece]

The point is, the bullet must do sufficient damage the first round maybe second, not a full magazine to subdue a bad guy. Your not range shooting, a real encounter needs to be a quick incapaciation.