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To: steve-b
But the situation is bigger now. Back in the day the individual bootlegger wasn't a problem. He'd maybe distribute something to 5 or 6 friends at a cost to himself in material (blank TDK's the currency of my teenaged years that's for sure) and time (took 90 minutes to fill a 90 minute tape). They went after the big bootlegging operations (aka the swapmeet salesmen) because they were actually costing the industry money.

Now it's not that way. I can rip a whole CD in just a couple of minutes, toss it on a website and blammo thousands of copies are out there. Now the individual bootlegger can outstrip the the pro for distribution range and speed. And it's nearly impossible to trace back.

And stuff your "duh" where the sun don't shine, you haven't presented a solution.

Neither AF nor I are blaming the equipment. There's a difference between using the equipment to enforcing via the equipment. There's ceiling to the amount of horsepower a car can be sold with in the US (hence why we don't get real lambo's, ours have been modified because the default build has too many horsepower). The level it's limited at is enough to get most cars from 0-75 in about 5 seconds, you really don't need to do that any faster, there's not really much reason to have more horsepower.
And since you're insult was based on a deliberate misstatement of my position yes indeed it is slander. On the other side you can just follow a simple rule: never say anything on line that would get you popped in the face in person. If you follow that you'll find you have much more civil and enjoyable conversations.
28 posted on 06/28/2002 11:02:12 AM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
here's ceiling to the amount of horsepower a car can be sold with in the US (hence why we don't get real lambo's, ours have been modified because the default build has too many horsepower). The level it's limited at is enough to get most cars from 0-75 in about 5 seconds, you really don't need to do that any faster, there's not really much reason to have more horsepower.

I've never heard of such a thing - IIRC, the reason Lambos are modified is to keep them in line with emissions requirements, not because there's some upper limit to horsepower. When you can get a street-legal modded Viper with 850 HP, it seems clear to me that any such restriction is so high as to make no practical difference. ;)

Not saying you're lying or wrong, now - just that I've never heard that, so I'd be interested in learning more...

31 posted on 06/28/2002 11:19:30 AM PDT by general_re
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To: discostu
But the situation is bigger now.

LOL! This is the excuse used for half of the leftists' subversions of the notion that the Constitution means what it says rather than what the leftists think it ought to say.

First Amendment? But the situation is bigger now -- we need to crack down on "hate speech" and "campaign finance abuses".

Second Amendment? But the situation is bigger now -- we need to get "Saturday Night Specials"* and "Assault Weapons"** off the streets.

*Definition: Any firearm less than twelve inches in length.
**Definition: Any firearm spanning one foot or more.
And it's nearly impossible to trace back.

Actually, in general it's quite trivial to trace back. The only obstacle is that the industry doesn't want to take the PR hit of targeting the individual violators.

And stuff your "duh" where the sun don't shine, you haven't presented a solution.

I haven't presented a solution that you like. That's too bad. There's ceiling to the amount of horsepower a car can be sold with in the US

Do I really have to explain the fallacy of using one unjustifiable policy to justify another unjustifiable policy?

you really don't need to do that any faster

That's the excuse used for the other half of the aforementioned leftist subversions (e.g. "Rich people don't really need all that money").

And since you're insult was based on a deliberate misstatement of my position yes indeed it is slander.

There is no misstatement. You and Sarah agree that law-abiding citizens should be prohibited from owning items because they might misuse them.

On the other side you can just follow a simple rule: never say anything on line that would get you popped in the face in person.

I've observed that people who prefer to blame inanimate objects tend to have poor impulse control. It's a convenient way of shifting blame, I suppose.

32 posted on 06/28/2002 11:19:47 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: discostu
I think the point that you are missing is that we are not talkinging about Microsoft and Intel deciding to put this stuff in their computers. We are talking about the Government dictating to everyone how they must build their computers.

The main effect that it is going to have is immediately raise the price of computers due both to the cost of the chip, and also due to the elimination of a lot of low end competition that can't compete when the barriers to entry are made higher.

82 posted on 06/28/2002 2:39:54 PM PDT by Rodney King
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