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How CAIR Put My Life in Peril [Moderate Muslim Khalid Dur n Attacked by Wahhabi Lobby]
Middle East Forum ^ | Unknown | Khalid DurĂ¡n

Posted on 06/27/2002 9:01:10 PM PDT by Stultis

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This not a recent article, but didn't appear to be in the FR archives (and should be). I've edited it to make the addresses in the index live links.
1 posted on 06/27/2002 9:01:10 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
I look forward to the day when we all will be happily toasting marhsmellows over CAIR offices, Wahhabi mosques, and Islamist "charities" here in the US.
2 posted on 06/27/2002 9:12:35 PM PDT by SandfleaCSC
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To: Stultis
Wasn't the head of CAIR a big contributor to Hillary's war chest? I wonder if the head of CAIR attended the Rahmadan celebration at the "People's House"?
3 posted on 06/27/2002 9:21:46 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Stultis; PoppingSmoke
Good one.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 9:55:20 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Stultis
I've edited it to make the addresses in the index live links.

Well, I thought I had done. Let me try again:

1 "CAIR: Muslims Question Choice of Author for Book on Islam; Writer for Jewish Group Has Mysterious Identity, Was Convicted of Defaming Islamic Center," Apr. 4, 2001, at http://www.cair-net.org/nr.asp?date=2001/04/04b.
2 Khalid Durán, with Abdelwahab Hechiche, Children of Abraham: An Introduction to Islam for Jews (New York: American Jewish Committee, 2001).
3 "The Author Khalid Durán Is an Apostate and American Muslims Call Him an Infidel," Ash-Shahid, June 6, 2001.
4 "Jewish Group's ‘Phony Fatwa' Slammed as Publicity Stunt," July 2, 2001, at http://www.cair-net.org/main/nr.asp?date=2001/07/02.
5 Ash-Shahid, July 22, 2001.
6 Alexander Rose, "How Did Muslims Vote in 2000?", Middle East Quarterly, Summer 2001, pp. 13-14.
7 "I ask your help in urging young people in your communities to think seriously about becoming part of America's foreign policy team." See "Remarks by Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright, Iftar Dinner with Leaders of the American Muslim Community," Dec. 21, 1999, at http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/mena/albr1222.htm.
8 Jake Tapper, "Islam's Flawed Spokesmen," Salon.com, Sept. 26, 2001, at http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/26/muslims/. See also the exchange about this article at http://www.salon.com/news/letters/2001/10/01/cair/index.html.

5 posted on 06/27/2002 10:26:15 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: dennisw; monkeyshine; hellinahandcart
Ping!
6 posted on 06/27/2002 10:27:17 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
Great one, Stultis!

Hopefully, Fox News Network will read this as well. And NOT invite Ibrahim ("Dougie") Hooper back on any of their talk shows as a spokesman for Muslims!
7 posted on 06/28/2002 12:04:19 AM PDT by Humidston
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Hopefully, Fox News Network will read this as well. And NOT invite Ibrahim ("Dougie") Hooper back on any of their talk shows as a spokesman for Muslims!

I need to get off my ass and finish it, but I've been working on a model letter/email to send to television editors/producers complaining about the over-representation of Islamists in the media, the failure of the media to adequately challenge their false claims to be "moderate" and broadly representative of American Muslims, and the failure of the media to give adequate exposure to genuinely moderate Muslims (like Duran).

Once I get this whipped into shape and resources gathered and linked I'll be posting it here on FR and urging other FReepers to take up a letter writing campaign.

8 posted on 06/28/2002 12:48:53 AM PDT by Stultis
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As well you should complain.

there does exist a parallel between my case and the Salman Rushdie affair.

This is so illustrative of just how and when these people speak. Fatwa, oh sure. But no fatwa or even speaking up against the terrorists. Everyone in the West has been waiting for some kind of denunciation, but what the Islamists would rather do is issue fatwas against an author they probably have not read.

Now they can tell themselves how much more they need to hate their enemies, that they make up.

A very telling response.

9 posted on 06/28/2002 5:42:10 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: Stultis
BUMP
10 posted on 06/28/2002 5:45:05 AM PDT by PogySailor
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Council on American-Islamic Relations

The name says it all. You can't be a Muslim AND an American. They are two different things.

11 posted on 06/28/2002 8:56:08 AM PDT by Maceman
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The author of this article could be Muslim and American, as can some Muslim friends of mine.

The author poinrs out the real problem the Wahhabi sect. This points to the real enemy the Saudi and their progeny. They will have to be dealt with. They are infecting places like Pakistan with their brand of Islam and should be stopped. People like Khalid Dur should be supported.
12 posted on 06/28/2002 9:39:37 AM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto
My only point is that it is interesting that the name of this group is the Council on Islamic-American Relations, which would indicate that in the minds of Muslims (or at least the minds of CAIR) the two are separate.
13 posted on 06/28/2002 9:54:51 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Stultis
Scarcely 10 percent of American Muslims can be classified as Islamists—the extremist fringe of contemporary Islam. An additional 5 percent are sympathizers, and another 5 percent agree with Islamists on certain issues.

I'd love to know the source for these figures.

14 posted on 06/28/2002 9:59:20 AM PDT by Maceman
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Scarcely 10 percent of American Muslims can be classified as Islamists—the extremist fringe of contemporary Islam. An additional 5 percent are sympathizers, and another 5 percent agree with Islamists on certain issues.

I'd love to know the source for these figures.

I don't know, but Duran, having closely followed the Islamist movement in Muslim emigre communities for years, should have a pretty good take on this. He helped Emerson with research for American Jihad and has written articles with Daniel Pipes, such as the following:

Muslims in the West: Can Conflict Be Averted? (A 1993 perspective from Daniel Pipes-Long)

15 posted on 06/28/2002 1:59:50 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Maceman
I'd love to know the source for these figures.

O.K. I found a bit more, from the following article by Daniel Pipes. Note, however, that Pipes is referring to Islam worldwide whereas Duran was addressing the United States. It looks like all these numbers are basically guestimates.

Who is the enemy? Daniel Pipes looks to moderate Muslims to help defeat militant I

Let me try to specify with greater exactness the constituency for militant Islam. It is divisible into three main elements.

The first is the inner core, made up of the likes of Osama bin Laden, the nineteen hijackers, al Qaeda, leaders of the Taliban regime in Af ghanistan, and the rest of the network of violent groups inspired by militant Islamic ideology. Such groups have mostly come into existence since 1970, becoming since then an evermore important force in the Muslim world. The network, dubbed the "Islamintern" by some Muslim critics, contains both Shiite and Sunni variants, appeals to rich and poor alike, and is active in such far-flung locations as Af ghan istan, Algeria, and Argentina. In 1983 some of its members initiated a campaign of violence against the United States whose greatest triumph so far was the spectacular operation on September 11. In all, the network's adherents are as few as they are fanatical, numbering perhaps in the thousands.

The second ring comprises a much larger population of militants who are sympathetic to al Qaeda's radical utopian vision without themselves being a part of it. Their views were on display daily as soon as hostilities began in Afghan istan: protesters and mujahideen by the tens of thousands, all expressing a determined loathing of the United States and an enthusiasm for further acts of violence. Countries not normally heard from, and hardly hotbeds of radicalism, came to life to protest the U.S. campaign. ...

As best I can estimate from election data, survey research, anecdotal evidence, and the opinions of informed observers, this Islamist element constitutes some 10 to 15 percent of the total Muslim world population of roughly one billion-that is, some 100 to 150 million persons worldwide.

The third ring consists of Muslims who do not accept the militant Islamic program in all its particulars but do concur with its rank anti-Americanism. This sentiment is found at almost every point along the political spectrum. A secular fascist like Saddam Hussein shares a hatred of the United States with the far leftists of the PKK Kurdish group who in turn share it with an eccentric figure like Muammar Qaddafi. Reliable statistics on opinion in the Muslim world do not exist, but my sense is that one half of the world's Muslims-or some 500 million persons-sympathize more with Osama bin Laden and the Taliban than with the United States. That such a vast multitude hates the United States is sobering indeed.

That is not to say, of course, that anti-Americanism is universal among Muslims, for important bastions of pro-American sentiment do exist. These include the officer corps of the Turkish military, who are the final arbiters of their country's destiny; several leaders of Muslim-majority states in the former Soviet Union; the emerging dissident element in the Islamic Republic of Iran; and, more generally, those Muslims who have experienced at first hand the dominion of militant Islam.

But these constitute a minority. Elsewhere, and everywhere, anti-Americanism rears its head: among the sheltered females of the Saudi elite and the male denizens of Cairo's vast slums, among the aged in remote reaches of Pakistan and among the students at a Muslim school in the suburbs of Washington, D.C.


16 posted on 06/28/2002 2:52:55 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
scary that so many can be sooooo stupid - "my sense is that one half of the world's Muslims-or some 500 million persons-sympathize more with Osama bin Laden and the Taliban than with the United States. That such a vast multitude hates the United States is sobering indeed"

This is the real war we need to win.
17 posted on 09/23/2002 6:51:47 AM PDT by XBob
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To: Stultis; Fred Mertz; Sabertooth; bvw; Jael
BUMP
18 posted on 02/27/2003 2:21:34 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks for the heads up!!!
19 posted on 02/28/2003 10:37:47 AM PST by Jael
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To: Stultis
"need to teach Americans about the difference between law-abiding, moderate Muslims and Islamist extremists"

The "moderate" Muslims could do a great job themselves by speaking out against terror, but they will not....

...because 95% of them support it!
20 posted on 02/01/2004 2:38:22 AM PST by observer5
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