Posted on 06/27/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA
Thank you Cyncooper. You have just stated what we all have been saying all along.
IF the police in the Danielle case had done what the police in the Smart case are doing, we wouldn't be having these type of threads.
The Danielle case, the police found a perp, then investigated evidence to support that.
In the Smart case, they are investigating evidence and will use the pertinent evidence only to support their case against the person that evidence points to. They will then arrest that person, based on an overall objective investigation.
SO, once again, Thank you.
Not anymore....
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A well-thought out scenario. I'm just wondering, however, how you square it with Feldman's contention that she wasn't killed....
As you may have read, this is a big bone of contention on these threads also. We know Danielle is dead. Her death could have been (accidental, unintentional period, heat of the moment unintentional, heat of the moment intentional, pre-planned)
It is very hard to tell which one of these it was.
According to the Medical Examiner and LE, We have no instrument or tool that was used, no trace of drugs or poison of any kind, no apparent major crushing injuries to the body, no signs of strangulation or drowning (although there are countless explanations for why any one of these could be the cause of death, but not visible or apparent to the ME).
SO, what we have in this case is a ME saying that because the police arrested DW, and have what they think is some trace evidence that COULD prove that DW had been in the MH or near his jacket at some time between when the VD's moved into Sabre Springs and when she died, that therefore the police have concluded DW did it, that the ME has concluded that Danielle's death was therefore a suicide.
THis is a BIG POINT that many are missing. That the ME's conclusion, used to bring DW to trial, is based on the police arresting and charging DW with the crime to begin with. (The snake that eats it's own tail.) And the arrest was before they had a body, and therefore any supporting evidence as to the manner of her death. Just that factor alone should have been enough for any person to see that the whole thing is a sham. We all believe, I am fairly certain, that Danielle did not die of natural causes. Other than that, I would say we can not be sure how she died.
and that her body wasn't placed in Dehesa 'till after DW was under scrutiny. Like to know your thoughts on this.
If DW did it, he couldn't have moved her body after he was in police custody, unless he had an accomplice. If DW did it, and he had an accomplice, why move it to where police can find it?
If it can be proven the body was not at Dehesa Rd until very recently(meaning just before discovered), then someone wanted the body found. Someone that knew this was a good likely spot, or someone that felt this would help implicate DW, and/or someone that knew that BILL GARCIA had done a review of that area and maps, and was sending the troops back to that exact area with more manpower. Who would that someone be? Who would gain from this? Without a body, it would be hard to take DW to trial. Without a body, if would be hard/impossible to collect on any insurance on the girl.
Earlier in this thread someone mentioned another thing that got past everyone, I believe.
Diane Halfman. Her domestic partner got arrested for Domestic Violence.
What if Diane and her partner were babysitting for Damon that night? After Brenda was gone?
Could that person have hurt/killed Danielle? Would that explain why Diane Halfman was SO INVOLVED from the very first second of Danielle's disappearance? Why she directed the activies of the police investigators (they were personal friends), why she advised the VD's on police procedures, what to say and do? It would help us if we knew more about Diane Halfman's whereabouts on that Friday night.
Well, it's nice to meet someone new, someone with a sense of humor, and humility.
May we meet again, on some common thread!
Easy as pie for him to do that. All he had to do was pull his car into the garage, if it wasn't already there, and place the body in it. Since garage is attached, no witnesses. (How incompetent is the SDPD that they didn't have forensics check out his suv before he quickly dumped it?)
Not the same for DW. Assuming he was able to get the body out of the house without being seen, he would then have to carry it out to his vehicle in broad view of anyone happening by.
SO, what we have in this case is a ME saying that because the police arrested DW, and have what they think is some trace evidence that COULD prove that DW had been in the MH or near his jacket at some time between when the VD's moved into Sabre Springs and when she died, that therefore the police have concluded DW did it, that the ME has concluded that Danielle's death was therefore homicide.
We don't know that they didn't check his van. BUT, they may have chosen to ignore any thing they found, BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR MAN. Any thing they found in the van WOULDN'T SUPPORT THEIR CASE AGAINST DW.
Now, I really don't think the SDPD are all crooks. But, they could have been led by the nose, by a friend (Diane Halfman). They also could have been innocently ignoring things like that, because at the time, they were helping PARENTS look for a LOST or KIDNAPPED child. No reason, AT FIRST, to suspect the parents.
Are you saying that defense attorneys should only have the right to point out what police departments/prosecutors have already chosen to present to a jury? That's friggin' scary, sorry. And tell your story to Richard Jewell & the poor junkie MSNBC all but electrocuted for the Smart crime, while you're at it.
Why was she so quickly at the Van Dam's side?
How much influence did she have in the investigation (she was close personal friends of the investigators, and admitted so to the press)?Who is her common law/domestic partner?
Was that partner at the VD's on that FRIDAY NIGHT?
Why was her 'partner' ARRESTED for DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?
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The police searched Garry Harvey's apartment, why? I believe trashed the place was the phrase used. If Garry and Jeff were cooperating with police when they came to talk to them, were they then considered suspects and thus their home searched?
Were the homes of Rich Brady, Keith Stone and Denise and Barb searched? If not, why not?
Testimony of Garry Harvey:
19 Q. WERE YOU CONTACTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT REGARDING
20 YOUR ACTIVITIES ON THE EVENING OF FEBRUARY 1ST AND 2ND?
21 A. NO, I WAS NOT. OR NOT UNTIL -- NOT UNTIL THE
22 FOLLOWING WEEK.
23 Q. ALL RIGHT.
24 A. IT WAS LIKE -- I THINK IT WAS WEDNESDAY.
25 Q. DID THEY INTERVIEW YOU SEVERAL TIMES?
26 A. YES, THEY DID.
27 Q. DID YOU SPEAK WITH THEM?
28 A. YES, I DID.
1 Q. DID THEY COME SEARCH OR EXAMINE YOUR RESIDENCE?
2 A. YES, TWICE.
3 Q. DID YOU LET 'EM?
4 A. YES, WE DID.
5 Q. HOW DID THEY SEARCH THE HOUSE OR --
6 A. THE FIRST TIME THEY CAME IN THERE WAS A NUMBER OF
7 THEM THAT WERE THERE. THEY CAME UP AND SEARCHED THROUGH MY
8 ROOM. WE HAD TO STAY OUTSIDE. THEY SEARCHED THE PROPERTY. AND
9 THE SECOND TIME THEY CAME WITH HELICOPTERS AND DOGS.
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