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Anatomy Of A Murder: Westerfield vs. Van Dams (A Mother's Story)
San Diego Online ^ | June 27, 2002 | Kevin Cox

Posted on 06/27/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: It's me
So they ought not take their boys to a fair? The boys deserve to go on outings with their parents, imo.
581 posted on 06/28/2002 7:25:30 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Rheo
...I'm in Washington...

Not in Spokane by any chance? Do you have a basement? (Just kidding!)
I was reading about the "Expensive homes used to grow dope, U.S. attorney says" article on another thread.

582 posted on 06/28/2002 7:25:35 PM PDT by Karson
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To: Karson
Not in Spokane, no basement, don't grow dope..shoot, not even an expensive house.
583 posted on 06/28/2002 7:28:27 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: cyncooper
My comment not directed to "It's me" directly, just the fair goers' thoughtlessness around the boys.
584 posted on 06/28/2002 7:30:53 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Rheo
It was a bad joke. Sorry. I have good friends in Washington ... salt of the earth type folks.
585 posted on 06/28/2002 7:33:08 PM PDT by Karson
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To: cyncooper
I agree, that person who offered "support" was off the wall.
586 posted on 06/28/2002 7:33:44 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Karson
I was joking too....I grow dope and I do have a basement...:-)
587 posted on 06/28/2002 7:35:45 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: cyncooper
...the fair goers' thoughtlessness around the boys.

That was totally unforgivable! I feel so sorry for those boys.

588 posted on 06/28/2002 7:37:18 PM PDT by Karson
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To: Rheo
ROFL
589 posted on 06/28/2002 7:38:26 PM PDT by Karson
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To: Karson
It's true and all over. Big closets with grow lights galore. My late electrician dad-in-law came upon a few in that area in Princeton NJ off the Great Road -- multi-million dollar houses.

On the other hand, pot should be legal and stamped. Like tabakky.

590 posted on 06/28/2002 7:38:42 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Maybe that 'splains how some folks pay for those multi-million dollar houses?
591 posted on 06/28/2002 7:41:39 PM PDT by Karson
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Cadaver Dogs can consistently correct in detecting "cadaver scent" in 2.5-3 hours after death.

Cadaver Scent Project

TRIALS BEGUN: January 1997
NUMBER OF DOGS USED: Five different dogs
POST-MORTEM INTERVAL RANGE: From 70 minutes to 3 days
NUMBER OF TRIALS COMPLETED: As of July 1997, total of 52 trials completed
PRELIMINARY RESULTS: The shortest post-mortem interval for which we received a correct response was one hour and 25 minutes. However, the post-mortem interval for which we received a consistently correct response from all dogs involved is 2.5 - 3 hours.

592 posted on 06/28/2002 7:41:47 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: It's me
A man walked up to them and just said, "Fools!" and walked on. Another woaman said, loud enough for them to hear, "Perverts."

As hard as this is on the boys, it may be better than not hearing it. It gives them an opening to talk about their parents to a counselor, at some point in the future, when they have the ability to throw off those louses of parents.

593 posted on 06/28/2002 7:44:16 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
On the other hand, pot should be legal and stamped. Like tabakky.

You just hush. 'don't need Kevin Cury or Tx4ever on this thread.

594 posted on 06/28/2002 7:45:23 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: Valpal1
That's amazing. Thanks for looking it up. I was afraid I would learn more than I wanted to know.
595 posted on 06/28/2002 7:46:03 PM PDT by Karson
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To: Valpal1
POST-MORTEM INTERVAL RANGE: From 70 minutes to 3 days

Does this indicate that a scent over three days old is undetectable? The volunteer cadaver dog that Frazee says did his stealth "hit" on the MH storage compartment performed on 2/6.

596 posted on 06/28/2002 7:47:00 PM PDT by shezza
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To: Valpal1
Great link....you must be a blast at parties!:-)
597 posted on 06/28/2002 7:48:25 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Karson
No, except indirectly as a adjunct to "networking". Maybe some money in the pot, but these people no Great Gatsby's running rum to be in with the swells. Some came from swell lines already, all had no lack of money with pot or without.
598 posted on 06/28/2002 7:48:36 PM PDT by bvw
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To: cyncooper
So they ought not take their boys to a fair? The boys deserve to go on outings with their parents, imo.

Sorry, obviously I didn't make myself clear. My daughter was disturbed at how unfazed the van Dams appeared. They did not seem upset or distraught.

I think that if my daughter was murdered, and the accused was on trial, I wouldn't go to the fair. If I wanted my sons to go, to have a somewhat "normal" life, I would have asked a friend to take them. I couldn't see going to the fair while mourning my murdered child.

Could you?

599 posted on 06/28/2002 7:52:04 PM PDT by It's me
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To: bvw
Do you think it is possible Damon and Brenda will straighten up and fly right? I don't think they were as bad parents as most here do. Self-indulgent, to be sure. Still hanging on to the partying as if they were in college, plus the repulsive swapping business.

But it is clear they were very involved in their children's lives. Let me tell you, being cookie mom for the brownies is no small task and not one an indifferent mother would take upon herself.

600 posted on 06/28/2002 7:58:36 PM PDT by cyncooper
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