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Anatomy Of A Murder: Westerfield vs. Van Dams (A Mother's Story)
San Diego Online ^ | June 27, 2002 | Kevin Cox

Posted on 06/27/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: Rheo; John Jamieson; cyncooper; UCANSEE2; sbnsd; bvw
Do you have any opinions about this? I found it on another forum..kind of disproves the "someone else did it" theory eh? Uniontrib.com news

Elsewhere in the documents made public today, prosecutors say Westerfield admitted to police that he was responsible for downloading the pornographic images onto his computer and disks. At his preliminary hearing, Westerfield's lawyers suggested that his teen-age son might have downloaded the images.

"The images were organized, categorized, and labeled so the defendant could easily locate the images he desired," Dusek wrote in the motion. "The images depicted very young nude girls, young girls involved in sexual acts with adult men and other young girls, and young girls involved in sexual acts with animals." Westerfield, 50, "has admitted to the police that he was solely and personally responsible for downloading, categorizing and maintaining the images," Dusek stated. "Contrary to the insinuations attempted by the defense at the preliminary hearing, neither the defendant's son nor anybody else was responsible for this huge collection of computer images."

21 posted on 06/27/2002 8:46:40 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Rheo; John Jamieson; cyncooper; UCANSEE2; sbnsd; bvw
http://www.uniontrib.com/news/ metro/danielle/20020506-9999_1m6westerfieldpapers.html

Hmm, that link didn't work, yet it looks find on the pre posting page. Oh well, here it is again.

22 posted on 06/27/2002 8:48:05 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

June 27, 2002

Given the command "bones," a dog trained to find cadavers sniffed around David Westerfield's motor home and reacted to a storage area on the side of the vehicle, a witness in Westerfield's murder trial testified yesterday.

The dog's handler was one of the final witnesses – perhaps the final witness – before the prosecution rests its case against Westerfield, who is charged with kidnapping and killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.

Westerfield's motor home had been impounded by police by the time the dog conducted the search Feb. 6, four days after the second-grader was reported missing, canine handler Jim Frazee testified. The dog wandered around the vehicle, targeted one of the side compartments, swung around, sat down, made eye contact with Frazee and barked, he said.

"That's his cadaver alert," Frazee testified.

Inside the compartment were a shovel and a piece of lawn furniture, he said.

Frazee's testimony ended a day in which jurors heard more evidence about the thousands of pornographic computer images found in Westerfield's house. Those images included photos of nude children, photos of people having sex with animals and cartoon videos depicting young girls being tied up and raped, the jurors were told.

Among the 8,000 images are pictures of a daughter of Westerfield's former girlfriend dressed in a bikini. At least one of the pictures shows the girl with her legs spread, according to testimony.

Westerfield's former girlfriend lived with him until at least 2000, and her daughter – also named Danielle – is now 16, public records show.

Also yesterday, an expert said a hair found in the sink drain of Westerfield's motor home and a bloodstain on the vehicle's carpet both essentially matched the victim's DNA profile. With both specimens, the statistical odds of the match being incorrect were so minuscule as to be virtually nonexistent, the expert said.

Depending on what happens Monday, the prosecution may rest its case without calling any more witnesses. Prosecutors want to summon one more person – it's unclear who – but Judge William Mudd will hold a hearing Monday to decide if that witness will be allowed to testify. The hearing will be closed to the public.

Regardless of whether the witness testifies, prosecutors have assembled what seems to be a powerful circumstantial case against Westerfield, 50, a twice-divorced design engineer who lived two doors from the girl in Sabre Springs and who Danielle's parents have described as a passing acquaintance.

In more than three weeks of testimony, prosecutors have presented physical evidence linking Danielle to Westerfield's 1997 Southwind motor home, his jacket and the bedroom of his house.

They have presented evidence that he lied about where he was during the two days after Danielle was reported missing from her bedroom the morning of Feb. 2. They have introduced alleged child pornography to suggest that he is sexually attracted to young girls.

"It appears very powerful on the surface, but you can't know until it's really tested" by Westerfield's attorneys, said San Diego criminal defense lawyer Bill Nimmo, who has been working as a television commentator on the case.

The defense will begin putting on its case next week, after which prosecutors will be allowed to call additional witnesses to rebut any of the defense's testimony.

Frazee, a volunteer with the county Sheriff's Department, said his dog – a 3-year-old vizsla named Cielo – was certified as both a search dog and a cadaver dog by the California Rescue Dog Association.

Westerfield usually kept his 35-foot motor home parked in a rural area of Poway about eight miles from his house, but the vehicle had already been searched and impounded by police when Cielo was summoned to sniff for cadaver evidence, Frazee testified.

Frazee said he was standing outside the motor home when he gave Cielo the "cadavers command" – an order to begin searching for a body.

Cielo's cadaver command was "bones," he said.

Near the passenger door, the dog began sniffing with increasing intensity, and the intensity became "more increased" the closer Cielo got to the storage compartment, Frazee said.

At the compartment, the dog did the "cadaver alert."

Frazee said he walked Cielo around the vehicle to see if the dog might have been reacting to the tires or fenders, which might suggest the dog's scent was distracted by road kill. Cielo didn't react.

When the compartment door was opened, Cielo sniffed the shovel and the lawn furniture for about 15 seconds, Frazee said.

He said the dog's behavior indicated that a cadaver had been stored either in the compartment or in an area of the motor home where the air fed into the compartment.

"I would assume that the body could be anywhere in the motor home, and it (the scent) could be emanating from that location," Frazee testified.

Prosecutors have introduced evidence that Danielle's hair, blood and fingerprints were found inside the motor home, but no other testimony has raised the possibility that the girl's body might have been in the compartment.

On cross-examination by Robert Boyce, one of Westerfield's attorneys, Frazee denied telling police at the scene that his dog had failed to react to the motor home.

He admitted he never reported his dog's positive reaction until weeks later, when he sent the canine's breeder an e-mail, figuring she would be "proud" of Cielo's achievement.

Frazee said several police officers and his supervising lieutenant were present during the search and witnessed the dog's behavior. He said he assumed at the time that they understood the significance of the animal's actions.

In court documents filed several months ago, prosecutors attached a police report stating that on Feb. 6 a police detective at the impound lot told other officers that "search dogs had alerted on a storage area located on the exterior of the motor home near the main entrance on the passenger side."

The jury in the case toured the motor home before being dismissed yesterday.

Yesterday morning, a San Diego police computer expert finished his testimony from the day before. James Watkins said the 8,000 pornographic images were found on disks in Westerfield's house and on two computers in his home office and bedroom.

The jury will be allowed to see all of the images, which have been placed in binders and booklets. At the start of the trial, Mudd ruled that prosecutors could show the jury about 17 of the images, but the judge reversed himself Tuesday after accusing defense attorney Steven Feldman of implying to the jury that the 17 were the only images that might qualify as child pornography or be particularly obscene.

Under cross-examination by Feldman, Watkins said yesterday that only 85 of the 8,000 images appeared to qualify as child pornography, while 39 of the 2,600 digital videos in Westerfield's house might be considered child porn.

The jury won't return to court until Tuesday. Today the attorneys are scheduled to hash out several legal issues, with Monday reserved for the closed-door hearing related to the potential final prosecution witness.

23 posted on 06/27/2002 8:55:06 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Rheo
I well thought about blue paint chips, and colored fibers-last night... Lots of unanswered questions that I hope will come out. Blue color I'm sure was tested - Because they know that it is -paint. But what kind -that chips: Wall? (interior or exterior), Finger Paint? (dried acrylic/dried waterbased), Blue Mascara? (can chip and Flake), and Automotive paint.

A shift here-Does anyone know if it was asked or testified to by Damon or Brenda that Danielle had her bath that Friday night? A bath -when hands and nails are washed, at about 9:00pm-after girl party left, could rule out innocent contact with her mom's bright red sweater earlier. Could implicate mom because mom had no known contact with her that night. Lots of Bright red polyester fibers found under and around Danielle's nails.



24 posted on 06/27/2002 8:57:33 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: Rheo; John Jamieson; UCANSEE2; cyncooper; Valpal1; All
By Preston Turegano
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

June 27, 2002

Pornographic pictures and video presented Tuesday as evidence in the David Westerfield murder trial caused local television news stations to consider appropriate ways of presenting the testimony and the images.

Police investigators say pornographic pictures and video were found on computer disks in Westerfield's house. Prosecutors contend that the images reveal a motive for Westerfield, who is charged with kidnapping and murdering his 7-year-old neighbor Danielle van Dam in February.

Many of the pictures the jury saw showed what appeared to be young girls in their early to mid-teens in various nude and seminude poses, along with several graphic videos of sexual assaults that included screaming.

Jurors were shown the images on a video monitor. Television viewers saw the monitor at a sharp angle with its screen blurred.

When the testimony turned graphic, Channel 8 ran two visual warnings, depending on the situation. One said, "Warning: Explicit Testimony," the other, "Warning: Graphic Evidence."

KFMB/Channel 8 news anchor Graham Ledger repeatedly cut in with oral advisories that the testimony was explicit.

Although the station ran the sounds of a girl moaning during its live coverage of testimony, it did not use the sound in any of its early afternoon newscasts. However, Channel 8 did use the sound in its nightly Westerfield trial special at 7:30.

"I made the editorial judgment that viewers tuning in to that show would be more aware of what to expect," said KFMB news director Fred D'Ambrosi. "We gave a very clear verbal warning prior to the story. We did the same at 11 p.m."

For the past two weeks, while the testimony focused on DNA evidence and other technical data, KFMB had not been broadcasting the Westerfield trial live and continuously.

With the compelling nature of the pornographic evidence, Channel 8 went back to the courthouse live on Tuesday. Yesterday, the station resumed its regular daytime programming after broadcasting the trial for about an hour.

Television coverage of the trial is being carried via pool coverage – a single camera that provides the same picture to local TV stations and cable's Court TV.

In San Diego County, Tuesday's court session was seen on KGTV/Channel 10's round-the-clock cable TV outlet, News Channel 15; KUSI/Channel 51; and Channel 8.

KUSI news director Richard Longoria said his station hasn't been showing any pictures or videos that are pornographic.

"We 'pot' (turn) down the sound when it is graphic," he said. "In other words, we did not air the screams coming from the video. We won't air any sound that is graphic."

On News Channel 15, anchor Hal Clement and reporter Steve Fiorina explained to viewers what to expect with the presentation of the pornographic evidence, saying the station would not show any of that material.

"We also warned that some of the audio which could be heard might be graphic, but we were going to monitor that as closely as possible on live television," said Channel 10 news director Mike Stutz.

"We also had a screen graphic up (when the trial resumed) which advised viewers the jury was viewing the pornographic material while they (viewers) were seeing the witness and attorneys on television. It also advised that the audio could be graphic."

Court TV did not air any of the pornography-related audio.

"We didn't think it was appropriate," said a spokeswoman for the channel.

25 posted on 06/27/2002 8:57:51 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: juzcuz
I wondered about the bath too....
26 posted on 06/27/2002 8:58:35 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: shezza
This WAS the prosecution's "Smoking Gun", the last witness before the MURDER HOME VISIT. Maybe the last witness before the prostition rests.

BACKFIRED BIGTIME!

But Court TV is still trying to sell "The dog that won't hunt".

I hope the judge is throwing the entire case out today!



27 posted on 06/27/2002 9:02:57 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: bvw
Please!!!!
28 posted on 06/27/2002 9:06:55 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: All
Today, the Judge is approving of and marking the Defense exhibits, no jury present (LIVE) but the ever biased Nancy Grace and CTV are rolling their eyes and making frownie faces...:~~(

sw

29 posted on 06/27/2002 9:08:43 AM PDT by spectre
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To: juzcuz
No mention to my knowledge by either VD, that Danielle had a bath.
30 posted on 06/27/2002 9:09:51 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: Jaded

"Go ahead and cry...but you WILL wear the High Heels!!"

31 posted on 06/27/2002 9:11:39 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2; Mrs.Liberty; demsux; Jaded; skipjackcity; RnMomof7; spectre; Poohbah; BARLF; Valpal1; ...
There are also 2 other articles I posted above

Porn, Motor Home Focus Of Westerfield Trial

Jim Frazee, who helps the San Diego Sheriff's Department, said his dogs searched the 1997 Southwind motor home Feb. 6 at a vehicle storage facility on Aero Drive.

T.V.Live Trial Coverage Resumes Tuesday @ 9 a.m.

The first dog, Hopi, was sent in to search specifically for Danielle's scent, Frazee said.

Hopi went into the galley area, the witness said, "and turned around immediately and came back."

He had explained earlier that Hopi was trained to return to his handler as soon as he found a scent. Hopi was sent back inside several minutes later.

"He jumped up on the sofa on the driver's side," Frazee testified, and remained there about five seconds.

His other dog, Cielo, showed considerable interest in an exterior storage compartment behind the passenger-side door, Frazee said.

Cielo, trained to find human remains and bodily fluids, sniffed a shovel and lawn furniture in the compartment for about 15 seconds, according to Frazee.

Frazee said that when he tried to take Cielo to another compartment, the dog sat down and barked, which is his alert signal.

Cielo did not show much interest elsewhere around the motor home, the witness testified.

Under cross-examination by defense attorney Robert Boyce, Frazee conceded that he did not report the dogs' reactions because his supervisor was watching them. He also said he had never before testified about dogs as an expert witness.

Boyce began his questioning loudly and angrily, apparently trying to intimidate the novice witness, drawing a rebuke from Superior Court Judge William Mudd.

"Mr. Boyce, calm down, take a deep breath," Mudd said.

In pretrial motions, the defense had asked that testimony about Cielo be excluded.

Westerfield Moter HomeTestimony earlier Wednesday also involved the motor home.

Mitchell Holland, the laboratory director of the Bode Technology Group, said a blood stain from the motor home carpet and a hair found in the bathroom sink were compared to a known sample from the 7-year-old victim.

Regarding the hair, Holland said the chances are "one in 25 quadrillion" of selecting a person at random from the Caucasian population who would have the same DNA.

When asked about the blood stain, Holland told prosecutor George "Woody" Clarke that the chances were "one in 660 quadrillion" of selecting a person at random from the Caucasian population who would have the same DNA.

"Is this an example where samples match?" Clarke asked.

"Yes, it is," Holland answered.

The expert testified that he performed mitochondrial DNA testing -- different from "nuclear" DNA testing -- on hairs found on clothing in Westerfield's washing machine, dryer and sheets from his master bedroom in Sabre Springs.

Holland said he could not exclude Danielle van Dam as the donor of the hairs in question.

Police computer expert James Watkins completed his testimony by saying that 85 sexually oriented computer images of underage females were found in Westerfield's home.

Watkins said the images were among at least 8,000 deemed pornographic. A total of 100,000 images were found on the computer, but many were simply icons and arrows that make operating systems work.

Under cross-examination by Westerfield attorney Steven Feldman, Watkins conceded that what he called "questionable images" made up only a small portion of what was discovered.

"What percent is 85 out of 100,000?" Feldman asked.

"Obviously, less than 1 percent," Watkins answered.

"What percentage is 85 of 8,000?" Feldman inquired.

"About 1 percent."

Watkins told Feldman he found "borderline" images in which he could not be certain the females depicted were under 18. He said he gave the defendant the benefit of the doubt in those cases.

The jury also toured the defendant's 35-foot motor home Wednesday, after authorities brought the RV to an underground garage in the San Diego Hall of Justice.

Mudd had jurors meet in the overflow jury lounge, where they were escorted to the recreational vehicle.

Westerfield told authorities he drove the RV to the Silver Strand State Beach near Coronado the day Danielle van Dam's mother reported her missing from her bed.

The defendant said he then drove to the Imperial County desert town of Glamis, where he got stuck in the sand.

32 posted on 06/27/2002 9:12:02 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2; Mrs.Liberty; demsux; Jaded; skipjackcity; RnMomof7; spectre; Poohbah; BARLF; Valpal1; ...
I meant to ping this to everyone earlier..sorry. Comments?? Any reports/testimony to counter this?

http://www.uniontrib.com/news/ metro/danielle/20020506-9999_1m6westerfieldpapers.html

Elsewhere in the documents made public today, prosecutors say Westerfield admitted to police that he was responsible for downloading the pornographic images onto his computer and disks. At his preliminary hearing, Westerfield's lawyers suggested that his teen-age son might have downloaded the images.

"The images were organized, categorized, and labeled so the defendant could easily locate the images he desired," Dusek wrote in the motion. "The images depicted very young nude girls, young girls involved in sexual acts with adult men and other young girls, and young girls involved in sexual acts with animals."

Westerfield, 50, "has admitted to the police that he was solely and personally responsible for downloading, categorizing and maintaining the images," Dusek stated. "Contrary to the insinuations attempted by the defense at the preliminary hearing, neither the defendant's son nor anybody else was responsible for this huge collection of computer images."
33 posted on 06/27/2002 9:17:02 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, you put up a great fight, but the battle is over. Westerfield walks, guilty or innocent. None of us really knows which. What is true, is the DA failed:

1. To identify the manner and mode of death.

2. To identify the place of death.

3. To identify the time of death.

4. To identify the motive.

5. To identify the murderer.

Westerfield will also walk on the child porno charge, just as soon as someone gets around to reading the latest Supreme Court Ruling.

It's over! There can't be 12 jurors ready to convict this man today, how is there going to be after 30-45 days of defense witnesses?
34 posted on 06/27/2002 9:18:11 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The Bath issue could be a good question for the defense to explore. Fiber expert stated that the orange fiber had been there notted in her hair. A LARGE hair knot (in a wad), around and next to necklace with orange fuzzy fiber in and around the wad. Expert stated knot occured at the time of death. This could be challenged? If Danielle had not had a bath in a while.
35 posted on 06/27/2002 9:18:37 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: John Jamieson
I think you're falling off the fence too soon. We've not even heard feldman's excuses/defense yet.

They have a body, (remember they've convicted people of murder without the body), they have evidence of danielle being in the mh, the porn charge will IMHO more than likely be a conviction because 1. he admitted downloading according to the report, 2. the animation does not constitute the entire load of child porn,..the child porn was right in front of the jury's faces and we heard the screams....it'll be a total shocker if he gets to keep his child porn and not be convicted...and 3., the child porn rapes scenes will make a lasting impact...and this is just a smidgen of what they have accumulated. The closing arguments of dusek could make or break this case. I hope they have some awesome speech writers..

36 posted on 06/27/2002 9:28:42 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson
Couttv just made a funny comment....claiming bvd over stimulated dvd would be impossible considering all the porn he had.. Someone said somewhere the more porn you view, the more porn one needs to get ''off''. The method of excitement or thrill seeking increases, or something like that.

BTW, I don't think the time of death will have a major impact on the jury..that's just a hunch.

37 posted on 06/27/2002 9:33:05 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: juzcuz
That is true..if hair is matted/knotted, fibers etc can and do get stuck in it. One thing to consider is the murderer could have washed her off after the crime itself.. that can make knots etc., even worse.
38 posted on 06/27/2002 9:35:43 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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Jurors upset by images of young girls

By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

June 26, 2002

At least two jurors cried yesterday after prosecutors in the David Westerfield trial showed pictures of nude young girls, including movies of what looked like girls screaming while being sexually assaulted.

Prosecutors say the images and videos, all of which were found on computer disks in Westerfield's house, reveal a motive for the kidnapping and killing of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.

Westerfield, 50, a self-employed engineer, lived two doors from the girl in Sabre Springs. He is being tried on charges of kidnapping and murdering the second-grader.

The pictures clearly had an emotional impact on the jury of six men, six women and six alternates. One female juror openly wept, while another wiped her eyes with tissues.

More pornography will be introduced into evidence as a result of a ruling yesterday by Superior Court Judge William Mudd, who lashed out at Westerfield's lead attorney after the jury had been sent home for the day.

Before the trial began earlier this month, Mudd ruled that only the images shown in court yesterday could be used as evidence. But the judge reversed himself yesterday in response to what he labeled a misimpression created by defense attorney Steven Feldman.

While cross-examining a prosecution computer expert, Feldman seemed to suggest that the pictures shown to the jury yesterday were the only ones found in Westerfield's home that might qualify as child pornography or otherwise qualify as especially obscene.

"You know, I know, that is not true," Mudd told Feldman after the jury had left the courtroom.

With that, the judge said prosecutors could introduce several binders filled with scores of additional sexually themed pictures. The images were found on disks and computers in Westerfield's house, prosecutors say.

The judge said he would tolerate "no distortions to the people of this community that are going to make this decision. They are now going to know everything."

"If this jury wants to look at all this material, they're going to be welcomed to do it," Mudd told the attorneys. "This door has been opened like a barnyard."

Jurors saw about 14 pictures and videos yesterday, all of which were displayed on a television screen in a darkened courtroom. Many of the pictures depicted what appeared to be young girls in their early to mid-teens in various nude and seminude poses. Some appeared to be pre-pubescent or in the early stages of puberty.

Other images included a cartoon picture of a young girl in pigtails having sex, and several videos of what appear to be girls in school dresses screaming while being sexually assaulted. In one of the videos, the girl seems to be struggling as two men hold her down.

It was unclear how many additional images the jury will be allowed to see as a result of Mudd's ruling. It also was unclear what those images depict.

Prosecutor George "Woody" Clarke said authorities have "hundreds and hundreds" of pornographic images collected as possible evidence in the case.

Feldman later said there were about 80 "questionable" images – pictures that might qualify as child pornography.

At a preliminary hearing in March, prosecutors said some of the computer images found in Westerfield's house depicted bestiality.

In his lecture to Feldman yesterday, the judge said he originally limited the amount of pornography in the trial because he wanted to "minimize the prejudicial impact."

"This is a search for the truth, believe it or not," Mudd told Feldman. "And the truth is there are more than 13 images."

Feldman apologized to the judge and said any misimpressions he might have left with the jury were inadvertent.

"I certainly did not intend to end-run any of your rulings," Feldman said.

The controversy involved Feldman's cross-examination of James Watkins, a computer forensics examiner with the San Diego Police Department. Watkins testified that the images shown to the jury yesterday were found on five computer disks in Westerfield's home office.

Under questioning by Feldman, Watkins said authorities found 8,000 to 10,000 nude photographs and "several hundred" digital videos on Westerfield's home computers and disks.

Feldman asked Watkins whether it was true that the vast majority of those images depicted adult women, "with a couple of rare exceptions." Watkins agreed it was.

Feldman then made reference to the fact that of the thousands of images found in Westerfield's home, only a handful were being presented to the jury.

Watkins acknowledged that authorities don't know who downloaded any of the computer images found in Westerfield's house. Feldman seemed to suggest at several points that Westerfield's 18-year-old son might have been responsible for obtaining the material.

In other developments yesterday, Jennifer Shen, a San Diego Police Department criminalist, testified that a hair found on Danielle's nude body and another hair found in her hand both appeared to be Danielle's.

The girl's body was found off a rural stretch of Dehesa Road east of El Cajon about three weeks after she was reported missing from her home Feb. 2.

Shen also testified that an orange fiber tangled in the girl's plastic necklace at the time her body was found was similar to fibers found in laundry inside Westerfield's home and on bedding in his bedroom.

All the fibers were acrylic and of the same length, and all looked essentially identical under a microscope, she testified.

Similarly, blue-gray fibers found on Danielle's body were similar to fibers found on laundry in Westerfield's washer and dryer, Shen testified. The fibers were the same color, the same width and had the same "internal characteristics" under a microscope, she testified.

Shen said she didn't know the source for either the orange or blue fibers.

On cross-examination, Feldman suggested the fibers might have been transferred to Westerfield when he saw Danielle's mother at a Poway bar the night the girl vanished from her house.

Although Brenda van Dam said she barely knew Westerfield, Feldman has suggested he danced with her at the bar while she was in the midst of drinking and flirting with other people.

Feldman also noted that Danielle and her mother were in Westerfield's house selling Girl Scout cookies several days before the girl disappeared. The attorney suggested that might explain some of the fiber evidence.


Alex Roth
39 posted on 06/27/2002 9:41:22 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Could have washed her off??? BAWHAAAHAAAAHAAA!!! More bleach? I'm gonna buy some stock in Clorox.

But seriously, Kim. The child was not kept very well..poor little baby looked like a little Raggie Muffin most of the time. Should't be hard to prove she didn't have a bath that night.

sw

40 posted on 06/27/2002 9:44:41 AM PDT by spectre
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