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To: AuntB; *landgrab; *Green; *Enviralists; farmfriend; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Mama_Bear; poet; ...
Their offer was refused !!!!!! The official reason - "We wouldn't want to scar the land with a blade that big". The eventual cost of this stupidity was far , far more costly than any D 10 would have caused. These 2 machines could have cleared more fire line in a few hours than it took 2500 firefighters 2 weeks to clear. This is a pure and simple case of having "Amateurs" in positions of responsibility. Monday morning quarter backing - "NO" - just a matter of common sense. Bone dry conditions - extreme low humidity - wind - and miles and miles of timber - with no real access or natural barriers.

The gold company was also told that their "dozer operators" were not "CERTIFIED FIREFIGHTERS". The company said "fine - put your own "operators" on the dozers. Their offer was still rejected. The results of all this is there for the "seeing".

Ping.
Read the rest of this; thanks, AuntB.

Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that the current fed leviathan should be gutted?

24 posted on 06/27/2002 12:54:32 PM PDT by brityank
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To: brityank
I put this post in an earlier mass emailing... it's appalling, isn't it?
25 posted on 06/27/2002 12:58:10 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: brityank; AuntB; forester; farmfriend; sauropod; countrydummy; BOBTHENAILER
Thanks BY, this says all that needs to be said about the enviral Druids in the Forestry Service:

The dozers pulled into Lake George on Thursday afternoon, accompanied by a bevy of heavy equipment operators from the mine who were ready to run the equipment 24 hours a day and cut a firebreak from Lake George to Divide, then over to Woodland Park. The men figured they could cut a 35’ wide firebreak for 20 miles through the forest in about a week. And they were offering to do this at no cost to the government. They just wanted to help.

Incredibly, the U.S. Forest Service turned them down. Kim Martin, the Incident Commander for the Forest Service, told Ron "The equipment is too heavy. It will tear up the land."

Ron's a big-hearted guy. He still wanted to help. He expanded Anglo Gold's offer of assistance. Not only would they cut a 20-mile firebreak to help contain the fire at no charge to the Forest Service -- Anglo Gold would also commit to replant trees in the affected area once the fire was out. But Martin was having none of it.

On Friday, June 14, Ron Largent and his crew returned to Cripple Creek. A week later, they’re still seething. The fire remains uncontrolled on its southeastern flank. And the Forest Service is finally calling in bulldozers. Little ones, from the Army, in Fort Carson. Almost fifty miles away.

After recounting this story, Mr. Kent McNaughton, a resident of Crystola, said, "I'm a homeowner in the area threatened by this fire. The Forest Service calls it 'a monster.' I'm incensed that the Forest Service has decided to fight the fire with one hand tied behind their back. They're fighting a bear with a pea shooter. They needed a rifle; and when it was offered, they declined it."

When asked for his reaction, Rick Stanley, the Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate, was characteristically blunt. "Two years ago, when the fire started at Mesa Verde National Park, local volunteers showed up with bulldozers and water trucks.* They could have put the fire out in a matter of hours. But the National Park Service was unwilling to accept private assistance. 24,000 acres of beautiful forest land was incinerated before that fire burned itself out." -----------------------------------------------------------

I wonder how many enviral organizations that Kim Martin is a card carrying Druid Nun for, while playing like a forestry service manager.

She and every enviral organization she belongs to has worked for on our tax $'s should be sued in civil court for the damages caused by this fire. Then, she should work for free for the rest of her life with her salary going to pay for the damages that she has done!

She has caused more damage to that part of America than the al Qaeda terrorists will cause if they ever do anything in that area.

Every card carrying enviral in the forestry service is a clear and present danger to every American within fire range of the forests they have mismanaged.

If I had lost my house or a loved one thanks to MS Martin, we would be having some serious one on one discussions. It is time to take the gloves off those who imperil us!

Radical enviralism agendas can kill you or your family, seriously injure you or your family and burn out your home, your farm, your ranch, your business or your cabin. These tinder box forests have not happened by accident. They have been well planned by the enviral whackos and their card carryind Druids pretending to be forestry people.

33 posted on 06/27/2002 1:46:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: brityank; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alaskanfan; ...
Pardon the double pings, but this is the same story as the thread that was pulled.

This is criminal activity. - Those dozers were turned away because they would have stopped the fire.

'Sensitive plants' are irrelevant if they are going to die in a fire anyway!

37 posted on 06/27/2002 5:40:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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