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Vanity: The Pledge of Allegiance is Unconstitutional - If That Doesn't Convince You What Will?
June 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/26/2002 11:48:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Pythagoras
Yeah. That'll show 'em.
221 posted on 06/27/2002 3:59:04 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: JohnPaulJones
"This is another clear sign that the Communist, Marxist, Socialist or whatever name you give them are now in position to take over america with out firing a shot as stated by Krushev back in the sixties when he said, we will inflitrate your churches, schools, media and courts."

They have already done this. What are the Republicans doing? ROFL their *stategy* consists of attempting to beat the Democrats by caving in on multiple fronts and attempting to look politically correct, multicultural, sensitive (AIDS to Africa/Amnesty)and pretty.
222 posted on 06/27/2002 3:59:46 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: UncleJeff
"One nation under God" keeps the Pledge of Allegiance from establishing a state religion, ala the Soviet Union. Recognition of God is not a religion. Atheism is not a religion. No religion is threatened by including "under God." All are threatened when a nation allows itself to be Supreme.
If you pledge to a godless nation you pledge to a nation that has usurped God's place in your heart.
The Ninth Circuit Court is WRONG.
223 posted on 06/27/2002 4:00:33 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Skooz
We need to learn how to play the spoiler game too... we need more Ralph Naders! Anything to siphon away 5 to 10 percent of what would normally be a Democrat vote.
224 posted on 06/27/2002 4:01:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: JohnHuang2; madfly; MeeknMing; Jim Robinson
To our modern-day Paul Reveres: Please ride forth with this word.

And to Jim:
In 1973 it was Roe v. Wade - shouldn't that have woken us up?
In 2000 it was Civil Unions in VT - shouldn't that have woken us up?
In 2002 it was 'Campaign Finance Reform' - shouldn't that have woken us up?

It's the same old problem that has plagued selfish, lazy man since the dawn of time...it's always Somebody Else's Problem.

I am very thankful that you have never thought so. You give me a glimmer of hope in an ever-darkening time.

225 posted on 06/27/2002 4:02:39 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I'm not an atheist but if I was instructed to say something I didn't believe at all I wouldn't be happy about it.

I just don't like people telling me how I should pray and I especially don't like jackass politicians trying to coerce me into something. As far as I'm concerned they can go straight to hell!!

226 posted on 06/27/2002 4:02:40 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: ValerieUSA
""One nation under God" keeps the Pledge of Allegiance from establishing a state religion, ala the Soviet Union. Recognition of God is not a religion. Atheism is not a religion. No religion is threatened by including "under God." All are threatened when a nation allows itself to be Supreme."

You see it is *insensitive* to atheists, Hindus, Buddhists or whoever to include that phrase so that is why it is ruled *unconstitutional* in our wonderful diverse politically correct multicultural society.
227 posted on 06/27/2002 4:03:40 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: Greg Weston
You're being invited. Not instructed, any more than putting a creche on the courthouse lawn is instructing people to believe in it. I hope that distinction is not wasted on you.
228 posted on 06/27/2002 4:04:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: nunya bidness
Bump.
229 posted on 06/27/2002 4:05:11 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Greg Weston
Jackasses will, in all probability, go to hell. Take heed.
230 posted on 06/27/2002 4:05:16 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Pythagoras
Interesting paragraph.

"With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence." - John Jay, Federalist Paper #2.
231 posted on 06/27/2002 4:05:54 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: Jerr
This will be overturned …

There is a problem with the ruling being overturned: The Republicans in Congress and here on FreeRepublic will celebrate mightily; they will declare a victory over the forces of atheism; they will congratulate themselves on the success of their mass mailing to Congress, etc., etc.

Meanwhile, the Liberals and Marxists will remain silent, and simply target another point in American Culture and Tradition. They know that the assault on the Pledge will be revisited another day by another generation of activists. Their Long March will continue.

232 posted on 06/27/2002 4:05:59 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Exactly. We need to find a way "to siphon away 5 to 10 percent of what would normally be a Democrat vote," instead of willfully siphoning away 5 to 10 percent of what would normally be a Republican vote.
233 posted on 06/27/2002 4:06:36 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
"Exactly. We need to find a way "to siphon away 5 to 10 percent of what would normally be a Democrat vote," instead of willfully siphoning away 5 to 10 percent of what would normally be a Republican vote."

Here is an interesting thought. In the last election the Mexican vote was something around 3-5% of the total I believe mostly in states like California and Texas, neither of which will be up for grabs in the next election. How about instead of throwing away amnesty on some delusional ethnic pandering scheme in the process alienating staunch conservatives what about appealing to working class socially conservative voters in battleground states. That is just my opinion, I could be wrong.

234 posted on 06/27/2002 4:09:52 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: .30Carbine
Naw there are alot of harmless jackasses. They won't make the trip. The ones pushing an agenda down your throat however....Take heed indeed.
235 posted on 06/27/2002 4:09:55 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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To: nunya bidness
Katie Couric is on the beat this morning! The martist/liberalist's are on the defensive today....
236 posted on 06/27/2002 4:10:47 AM PDT by JohnPaulJones
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To: Pythagoras
How many Mexicans are there in places like Iowa, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan?
237 posted on 06/27/2002 4:11:35 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: Greg Weston
Just because you don't like something doesn't make it unconstitutional. If that were the case, I would have filed suit to have the Oakland Raiders declared unconstitutional years ago.
238 posted on 06/27/2002 4:11:57 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you, Jim! I pray America wakes up before it disappears. Your words should be shouted from every roof.
239 posted on 06/27/2002 4:12:16 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Back when I was in school I don't remember it as an "invitation". Maybe it's different now.
240 posted on 06/27/2002 4:12:54 AM PDT by Greg Weston
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