[DoughtyOne]

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[Marathon]

They aren't out of touch with reality (well, they are, but not in the way Gingrich is thinking). They are just playing out the logical defense of the state religion (secular humanism) that they have established in contempt of Christianity and other religions. Censoring the Pledge of Allegiance is just the inevitable outworking of their goal to completely eliminate any challenge, criticism of, contradiction to or dissent from the state religion.

SH never has been able to defend itself on logical or empirical grounds, so the reliance on totalitarianism, censorship and other forms of non-rational persuasion (movie propaganda, historical revisionism, etc.) is necessary in their "evangelistic" outreach.

[aristeides]

"A judge who believes that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional is unfit to be a federal judge," he contended.

Newt is not alone. That's very close to what Sen. Byrd said on the Senate floor today.

[Goldi-Lox]

These Judges forgot something very important: 9-11.

After THAT, everything changed. It is no longer acceptable or tolerable to bash the US, its flag, OR its Pledge.

Today, Americans are AT WAR, and PROUD to be Americans. They have embraced the Pledge as a liferaft on a leaking boat. To try to take it away...as these judges are learning...has dire consequences.

[Ronin]

Having Newt the Wonder Twerp on my side in this controvery is not much comfort.

I want that hypocritical sleazeball to shut up and go away.

[muawiyah]

Getting fired beats being fired upon every time.

Those judges probably would be well advised to resign first.

[B Knotts]

Mr. Newt is right.

We need to FReep our elected officials and DEMAND that these two schmucks be impeached.

They are so far afield in this decision that drastic action is justified and required.

[neutrino]

"A judge who believes that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional is unfit to be a federal judge," he contended.

Exactly. The judge is in need of impeachment.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

This is so moronic. The "establishment clause" of the Constitution merely prohibited "congress" from passing legislation to create one Christian denomination as the official state church (like the Church of England, the Congregational Church, or the Catholic Church as in past historical experience).

A "state church" involved being required to be a member in order to vote, own property, sit in parliament, attend Oxford & Cambridge, and be exempt from punitive taxes or, in some cases, arrest or execution. It has nothing to do with the mere mentioning of "God" or generic civic prayer or the like. It certainly has nothing to do with "voluntary" speech which refers to God, the soul, or other religious or spiritual verities. These judges are ignorant of history. If the Constitution's establishment clause had banned civic prayer then obviously Congress would not have had a tradition of engaging in such (as it clearly has throughout history).

[WakeUpChristian]

Call Federal Judge Alfred Goodwin and demand
that he immediately resign... (415) 556-9800