[cascademountaineer]

The loud and obnoxious always make the most noise. The good seldom voice a complaint. However, there is only so far it can be pushed until even the most apathetic few finally speak up and say stop.

There is a balance to be struck. Is this an issue that can be debated further? Sure. But the continued cohesiveness of this nation is at stake if this kind of thing is allowed to continue.

This doesnt begin and end with the pledge. It begins with the flag being left out of schools, moves through to the pledge and ends with the founding fathers literally edited out of textbooks like a 1984 newspeak revisionist version of history.

[JMJ333]

I think the idiot judge did us a huge favor...I really do. =)