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9TH CIRCUIT COURT: PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL
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Posted on 06/26/2002 11:25:21 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

UNBELIEVABLE. BREAKING ON FOX: SF APPEALS COURT SAYS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ENDORSES RELIGION, AND IS THEREBY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.


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KEYWORDS: 9thcircuitcourt; michaeldobbs; pledgeofallegiance; unconstitutional
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I just said the pledge on Monday. I will say it every day, thanks to the court's decision.

Ditto!

101 posted on 06/26/2002 11:44:53 AM PDT by The Energizer
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OPINION
GOODWIN, Circuit Judge:

Michael Newdow appeals a judgment dismissing his challenge to the constitutionality of the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Newdow argues that the addition of these words by a 1954 federal statute to the previous version of the Pledge of Allegiance (which made no reference to God) and the daily recitation in the classroom of the Pledge of Allegiance, with the added words included, by his daughter’s public school teacher are violations of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND

Newdow is an atheist whose daughter attends public elementary school in the Elk Grove Unified School District (“EGUSD”) in California. In accordance with state law and a school district rule, EGUSD teachers begin each school day by leading their students in a recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance (“the Pledge”). The California Education Code requires that public schools begin each school day with “appropriate patriotic exercises” and that “[t]he giving of the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America shall satisfy” this requirement. Cal. Educ. Code § 52720 (1989) (hereinafter “California statute”).1 To implement the California statute, the school district that Newdow’s daughter attends has promulgated a policy that states, in pertinent part: “Each elementary school class [shall] recite the pledge of allegiance to the flag once each day.”

The classmates of Newdow’s daughter in the EGUSD are led by their teacher in reciting the Pledge codified in federal law. On June 22, 1942, Congress first codified the Pledge as “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” Pub. L. No. 623, Ch. 435, § 7, 56 Stat. 380 (1942) (codified at 36 U.S.C. § 1972). On June 14, 1954, Congress amended Section 1972 to add the words “under God” after the word “Nation.” Pub. L. No. 396, Ch. 297, 68 Stat. 249 (1954) (“1954 Act”). The Pledge is currently codified as “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” 4 U.S.C. § 4 (1998) (Title 36 was revised and recodified by Pub. L. No. 105-225, § 2(a), 112 Stat. 1494 (1998). Section 172 was abolished, and the Pledge is now found in Title 4.)

Newdow does not allege that his daughter’s teacher or school district requires his daughter to participate in reciting the Pledge.3 Rather, he claims that his daughter is injured when she is compelled to “watch and listen as her stateemployed teacher in her state-run school leads her classmates in a ritual proclaiming that there is a God, and that our’s [sic] is ‘one nation under God.’ ”

Newdow’s complaint in the district court challenged the constitutionality, under the First Amendment, of the 1954 Act, the California statute, and the school district’s policy requiring teachers to lead willing students in recitation of the Pledge. He sought declaratory and injunctive relief, but did not seek damages.

The school districts and their superintendents (collectively, “school district defendants”) filed a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. Magistrate Judge Peter A. Nowinski held a hearing at which the school district defendants requested that the court rule only on the constitutionality of the Pledge, and defer any ruling on sovereign immunity. The United States Congress, the United States, and the President of the United States (collectively, “the federal defendants”) joined in the motion to dismiss filed by the school district defendants. The magistrate judge reported findings and a recommendation; District Judge Edward J. Schwartz approved the recommendation and entered a judgment of dismissal. This appeal followed.

102 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:07 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Recovering_Democrat; MeeknMing; dubyaismypresident; Constitution Day
[Michael] Newdow appeals a judgment dismissing his challenge to the constitutionality of the words "under God"...
Newdow is an atheist whose daughter attends public elementary school... in CA....
Newdow does not allege that his daughter's teacher or school district requires his daughter to participate in reciting the Pledge. Rather, he claims that his daughter is injured when she is compelled to "watch and listen as her state-employed teacher in her state-run school leads her classmates in a ritual proclaiming that there is a God, and that our's [sic] is 'one nation under God.' " "

Pathetic. Put the granola down and get a f***ing life, intolerant scum...

103 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:13 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: phasma proeliator
Afghanistan is a place of government closely tied to religious beliefs... so a cave there wouldn't be to the liking of a US judge who ruled today. Think about it.
104 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:26 AM PDT by CecilRhodesGhost
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To: Howlin
The 9th has the WORST record of being overturned.

Oh, I am quite aware of that. No other federal circuit comes close.

As a lawyer I would not hesitate to cite the 9th Circuit in a legal brief for the opposite of what they said. For example, if 7 Circuits held a first position on a particular issue, and the 9th circuit held an opposing view, I would argue to the Supreme Court that the first position MUST be right as the 9th Circuit said the opposite.

105 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:26 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: Charles_Bingley
only in that federal court district

No, this ruling covers all of the states under the jurisdiction of the 9th Circuit (California, Hawaii, Oregon & several other states out west).

106 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:32 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
More like Alfred E. Newman
107 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:32 AM PDT by Corporate Law
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To: Hacksaw
"Freedom of religion in the US today means that you are free to practice religion as long as noone else notices."

Actually, our court system has contorted the meaning of the amendment into freedom from religion.

108 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:34 AM PDT by Thisiswhoweare
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance: Under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer, and that would be eliminated from schools, too?" -- Red Skelton from http://www.usflag.org/skeltons .pledge.html
109 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:41 AM PDT by knownot
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Red Skelton predicted this (as heard on Rush)
110 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:48 AM PDT by Dales
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To: Aggie Mama
When Americans' need to be able to come together in a spirit of patriotism the lefties do the unthinkable - Will the minority leader in the house and the majority leader in the senate step to the fore and protect the pledge for us. This kind of crap is why the democratic party will die. Half of the democrat's base hate America.
111 posted on 06/26/2002 11:45:57 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Corporate Law
I am sure that Senator Depends finds these judges to be fine and upstanding though.

These are the "mainstream" judges that Leaky and Herr Schumer demand that Bush nominate.

112 posted on 06/26/2002 11:46:14 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I wonder which religion they are pertaining to?

The Constitution calls for no state endorsed religions.
Even if the Pledge pertained to a certain religion (which it does not) that religion is not being endorsed by the state merely through endorsement in a pledge.

I would like to know which religion is endorsed by any state in America.




113 posted on 06/26/2002 11:46:17 AM PDT by truth_session
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To: College Repub
This ruling seems to benefit only the atheists...

You're ignoring non-monotheistic religions, religions who believe that the word "God" is sacred and should not be spelled out and religions that believe that the name "God" should only be used in specific circumstances and is not something to be trivialized by inserting it into a mundane pledge or stamping it onto paper currency.
114 posted on 06/26/2002 11:46:19 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
This is simply courts affirming the separation of church and state.

I challenge you to show me where in the US Constitution there is any mention of "separation of church and state".

Incidently, you've apparently picked an appropriate screenname for yourself..

115 posted on 06/26/2002 11:46:24 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Triple
It is a pledge to your country; not to socialism, or any type of belief, just to our great republic. I think that is a bare minimum requirement in order to enjoy citizenship of this nation.
116 posted on 06/26/2002 11:47:15 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Watch for a lot of civil disobedience.
117 posted on 06/26/2002 11:47:29 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: FormerLurker
I'm just waiting for the day they declare the US Constitution "unconstitutional".

5 Supreme Court Justices could stage a "Judicial Coup" by overturning parts of the Constitution they don't like.

The only way to stop them is for Congress to develop some major stones and exercise their right to limit jurisdiction as they see fit.

118 posted on 06/26/2002 11:47:40 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Triple
You are mincing words. Everyone knows what the pledge means. This is what happens when people OVERTHINK things. This is why the liberal establishment is out of touch with flyover country. Instead of living life, they think it to death and make life miserable for the rest of us.
119 posted on 06/26/2002 11:47:44 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: StockAyatollah
San Franciso court. I bet they say a pledge every day to the rainbow flag. This one will be overturned in the SCOTUS 5-4.

Hopefully, the five use it as an excuse to overturn a lot of previous garbage. This decision is ridiculous.

120 posted on 06/26/2002 11:47:49 AM PDT by Tribune7
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