[Diddle E. Squat]

Sorry, but I just don't buy the Zogby conspiracy stuff. Actually, I just think he is the best at what he does, the SoreLosermen recognized this and relied upon his polling. Of course there was voter fraud, but I think some may be overblowing it. The talk of 100+% turnout in Philly is a GOP urban myth. Likely there was fraud, turnout may have been above what is possible, but not 100%. Remember, it was the Clintons who perfected 'plausible deniability'.

Naw, it was a combination of things, but the DWI hurt. So did the sit at homers. Like the neighbors of Kitty Genovesie, they'll rationalize away any of their contribution to the near defeat.

[hchutch]

I have to agree for the most part, although Zogby had to have had some heads-up to predict what was about to happen. The undecided vote should have broken at least 50/50 to Bush, or even higher, but it didn't.

I think he was appraised of the DWI story, which almost worked. Too bad for the Democrats that the guy who had fished out the source was outed.

[lasereye]

The talk of 100+% turnout in Philly is a GOP urban myth.

There were several Wall Street Journal editorials after the election pointing this out. They tend to check their facts fairly carefully.

[eureka!]

Re#93 and 94. As to Zogby's accuracy, it is my understanding that he was the one that caught the 10% undecided breaking 2-1 for Gore, contrary to conventional wisdom where they go for the challenger and not the incumbent, the latter being a known quantity. And yes, it was due to the DWI or, moreso, the "why didn't Bush tell us" mantra the final 3-4 days. Recall, it wasn't the drinking or arrest that was pummeled into us by the pressholes. It was the trust/lie issue which, after the grifting predating 'Toon, raised enough doubt about W to have many undecideds break to Gore who, you will recall, ran away from Clinton and was portrayed as the honest one. That and the networks' shenanigans on election night and through in a whole lot of fraud and they almost did it. *whew* Too close for me. Just my lil' 'ol take on 2000....