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As shots rang out, some citizens tried to step in
Eastside Journal ^ | 2002-06-24 | Noel Brady

Posted on 06/24/2002 3:52:41 PM PDT by tarawa

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Yeah, I know I could say "If only she had been carrying the gun on her, rather than in the trunk.", or any number of other things, but all I can really say is that I'm glad people still chose to stop and at least TRY to help......
1 posted on 06/24/2002 3:52:42 PM PDT by tarawa
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"...Seattle's Fremont Summer Solstice Parade, where it's normal to see naked men on bicycles..."

Seattle, constantly recalibrating the definition of "normal"

2 posted on 06/24/2002 4:02:10 PM PDT by Sender
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Seattle, constantly recalibrating the definition of "normal"

No problem by me, as long as the recalibration includes citizens thinking it's normal that they should be armed and intervene to help in situations like this.

3 posted on 06/24/2002 4:21:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: tarawa
Nudity is dangerous. That's why we've banned it.
4 posted on 06/24/2002 4:23:35 PM PDT by ReadMyMind
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So what happened to the perp? Is he still running around naked, shooting people in the head?
5 posted on 06/24/2002 4:39:16 PM PDT by monday
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I'm sure this wasn't a hate crime either. Notice how the article mentions the race and blond hair of the woman running after the perp, but not the perp himself.
6 posted on 06/24/2002 4:42:41 PM PDT by Tailback
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There are many intriguing facets to this tragic tale:

- The officer was shot with his own pistol.

- The race of the murderer was not directly disclosed in accordance with political correctness, even though race clearly was a factor in this criminals behavior, but the writers have no problem using the expression "white woman" ("...the man at times shouted incoherently about white oppression of African Americans. A white, blond-haired woman ran after him, calling him by name...").

- Armed citizens were on hand to aid the officer, but unfortunately couldn't intervene in time.

- Needless to say, gun prohibitionists will not so much as acknowledge these events ever took place, since Officer Herzog was shot with his own pistol, and the two armed citizens who came to the aid of the officer were not trigger-happy cowboys/cowgirls. And the pepper spray didn't work. And this guy threw off a crowd of people "like water on a duck's tail", meaning just about everything short of a gun wouldn't have stopped this guy.

- No mention of whether or not the murderer was caught or is still running around with a police pistol.

- The murderer is almost certainly schizophrenic. There have been several violent incidents involving the large number of schizophrenics in the Seattle area over the years. About four years ago, for example, one guy held police at bay with a samurai sword in downtown Seattle for eleven hours, resisting repeated pepper spray spritzes, rubber bullets (the ones that missed left permanent dents in the wall behind him) and fire hose blasts. They finally charged him with a ladder and used it to hold him down while they tie-wrapped him from head to toe.

All in all, a sad story. My prayers go out to Officer Herzog's family, friends and fellow officers. And a crisp salute to my fellow citizens who made the brave decision to get involved when the chips were down.

Imal

7 posted on 06/24/2002 4:46:11 PM PDT by Imal
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I wonder if the guy with the .38 that used his car as a sheild knows that a car won't stop a bullet. Even a 22 rimfire goes through a car door like it's not even there.
8 posted on 06/24/2002 4:52:39 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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As shots rang out, some citizens tried to step in

The rest of them ran like hell...

9 posted on 06/24/2002 4:54:43 PM PDT by Bandolier
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He's being held without bail for investigation of first-degree aggravated murder.
10 posted on 06/24/2002 4:56:26 PM PDT by grimalkin
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The rest of them ran like hell...

If they were unarmed...after the opportunity to jump the guy had passed, what were they to do?

11 posted on 06/24/2002 5:28:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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I wonder if the guy with the .38 that used his car as a sheild knows that a car won't stop a bullet. Even a 22 rimfire goes through a car door like it's not even there.

You use the front of the car with the engine between you and the perp...if you can. An engine block will stop most any commonly carried handgun round.

12 posted on 06/24/2002 5:36:57 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ReadMyMind
Nudity is dangerous. That's why we've banned it.

Only dangerous to a liberal "emperor".

13 posted on 06/24/2002 5:42:52 PM PDT by meyer
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I wonder if the guy with the .38 that used his car as a sheild knows that a car won't stop a bullet.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. I'd like to think that I'd do the same thing.

14 posted on 06/24/2002 6:38:25 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Sender
That's why I moved to Las Vegas.
15 posted on 06/24/2002 6:46:20 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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The spirit of flight 93. Warning to Al-Queda. Americans are not Hindu villagers.
16 posted on 06/24/2002 7:06:27 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: mamelukesabre
If I have a choice of having a car between me and hostile fire, or nothing, I'll take the car, every time.
17 posted on 06/25/2002 12:47:25 AM PDT by UncleJeff
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(((ping))) Even.

I love it when I go into types-with-a-fist mode.

19 posted on 06/25/2002 3:45:18 AM PDT by cascademountaineer
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The spirit of flight 93. Warning to Al-Queda. Americans are not Hindu villagers.***


That's right. The red dot on a forehead may be from a citizen's laser sight.
20 posted on 06/25/2002 3:54:42 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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