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FBI Begins Visiting Libraries
Associated Press ^ | June 24, 2002 | Christopher Newton

Posted on 06/24/2002 3:34:40 PM PDT by Asmodeus

WASHINGTON –– The FBI is visiting libraries nationwide and checking the reading records of people it suspects of having ties to terrorists or plotting an attack, library officials say.

The FBI effort, authorized by the antiterrorism law enacted after the Sept. 11 attacks, is the first broad government check of library records since the 1970s when prosecutors reined in the practice for fear of abuses.

The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment Monday, except to note that such searches are now legal under the Patriot Act that President Bush signed last October.

Libraries across the nation were reluctant to discuss their dealings with the FBI. The same law that makes the searches legal also makes it a criminal offense for librarians to reveal the details or extent.

"Patron information is sacrosanct here. It's nobody's business what you read," said Kari Hanson, director of the Bridgeview Public Library in suburban Chicago.

Hanson said an FBI agent came seeking information about a person, but her library had no record of the person. Federal prosecutors allege Global Relief Foundation, an Islamic charity based in the Chicago suburb, has ties to Osama bin Laden's terror network

The University of Illinois conducted a survey of 1,020 public libraries in January and February and found that 85 libraries had been asked by federal or local law enforcement officers for information about patrons related to Sept. 11, said Ed Lakner, assistant director of research at the school's Library Research Center.

The libraries that reported FBI contacts were nearly all in large urban areas.

In Florida, Broward County library director Sam Morrison said the FBI had recently contacted his office. He declined to elaborate on the request or how many branch libraries were involved.

"We've heard from them and that's all I can tell you," Morrison said. He said the FBI specifically instructed him not to reveal any information about the request.

The library system has been contacted before. A week after the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI subpoenaed Morrison to provide information on the possible use of computer terminals by some of the suspected hijackers in the Hollywood, Fla., area.

In October, investigators revisited the county's main library in Fort Lauderdale and also checked a regional library in Coral Springs.

At least 15 of the 19 hijackers had Florida connections.

The process by which the FBI gains access to library records is quick and mostly secret under the Patriot Act.

First, the FBI must obtain a search warrant from a court that meets in secret to hear the agency's case. The FBI must show it has reason to suspect that a person is involved with a terrorist or a terrorist plot – far less difficult than meeting the tougher legal standards of probable cause, required for traditional search warrants or reasonable doubt, required for convictions.

With the warrant, FBI investigators can visit a library and gain immediate access to the records.

Judith Krug, the American Library Association's director for intellectual freedom, said the FBI was treading on the rights it is supposed to be upholding.

"It's unfortunate because these records and this information can be had with so little reason or explanation," Krug said. "It's super secret and anyone who wants to talk about what the FBI did at their library faces prosecution. That has nothing to do with patriotism."

Krug tells worried librarians who call that they should keep only the records they need and should discard records that would reveal which patron checked out a book and for how long.

She is frustrated by the hate mail she says she receives when she speaks out against the Patriot Act.

"People are scared and they think that by giving up their rights, especially their right to privacy, they will be safe," Krug said. "But it wasn't the right to privacy that let terrorists into our nation. It had nothing to do with libraries or library records."

Some libraries said they will still resist government efforts to obtain records.

Pat McCandless, assistant director for public services for Ohio State University's libraries, said, "State law and professional ethics say we do not convey patron information and that is still our stance.

"To the best of our ability, we would try to support patron confidentiality," she said.


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To: VA Advogado
We'll get the info and you get to use the federal prison library for free. How's that?

It's a good thing that you have never billed yourself as an advocate for freedom and liberty. At least you are consitent.

161 posted on 06/25/2002 6:51:16 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Asmodeus
Aside from the 4th-amendment concerns about having access to libraries' records, what about the 1st-amendment violation, where librarians can be prosecuted for telling people what the FBI's up to with them? What's up with that?
162 posted on 06/25/2002 7:15:57 PM PDT by inquest
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To: Rifleman
Would you come for me yourself avocado? Or would you just come at the thought of some jackboots doing what you can fantasize about but would never have the 'nads to do? Go back to fondling your trucheon collection. And imagining them with blood on them.

The law is the law. You're not saying you would break a law, would you? :) Anyone tell you the revolution is over?

163 posted on 06/25/2002 7:26:49 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Eagle Eye
It's a good thing that you have never billed yourself as an advocate for freedom and liberty. At least you are consitent.

I've never been shy about my feelings that the law should be strictly enforced. If a few skulls have to be cracked in doing so, so be it. Messages must be sent.

164 posted on 06/25/2002 7:30:13 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Momaw Nadon
That is adsurd....it is BIG ADDULLLAH that is watching you!!
165 posted on 06/25/2002 10:06:15 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: VA Advogado
I've never been shy about my feelings that the law should be strictly enforced.

Except that's not what you've been advocating on this thread; instead, you've been cheerleading for new laws altogether. That has nothing to do with making sure existing laws are enforced.

166 posted on 06/26/2002 6:42:51 AM PDT by inquest
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To: VA Advogado
>The law is the law. You're not saying you would break a >law, would you? :) Anyone tell you the revolution is over? There are things that have the form of law, but are unconstitutional and are thus no law at all. And there are laws that are evil or simply stupid that should be resisted. Would you have reported an escaped slave to the slave catchers in 1859? Or a Jew to the Gestapo in 1942? In both cases the laws were enacted by governments considered quite legitimate. At the time and place would you have denounced your parents for anti-soviet attitudes?

Yes, I would break the law if honor or morality requires it. I recently drove over 100 mph on the public highways, taking my mother-in-law to the emergency room. And I would do it again.

167 posted on 06/26/2002 7:35:22 AM PDT by Rifleman
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To: Rifleman
Well put. Citizens not only have the right, but they have the obligation to disobey an unjust law. This is true for peacetime or "war"time, if you want to call this an actual "war," even though it's not.

If I'm a solider in a war, and an officer tells me to, say, jump off a bridge or burn down someone's house, that is an illegal order and I have a duty to disobey it. Same applies here. This law is immoral and unjust, and we have a duty to disboey the Government here.

They (the Government) count on that there are too many sheep out there that will just do whatever they tell them to, not unlike our friend VA, who obeys the law just because it's the law.

I applaud the librarians that refuse to do cooperate, risking jailtime and God knows what else (knowing our Government, they'll probably be called "war criminals" and executed without a trial).

I wish the FBI nothing but the worst. I wouldn't trust them any further than I could throw them, and with my bad knee, I shouldn't be throwing anything.
168 posted on 06/26/2002 7:45:15 AM PDT by Viva Le Dissention
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To: weegee
Well... the only question i have is: Where the heck are the parents of these children who are using the computers at the libraries? Last i checked, it's the responsibility of the PARENTS, not of the librarians, to ensure that the children are properly protected; although the liberals seem to like to take that responsibility away from the parents and hand it to the schools, the libraries, and whatever other community group or organization they can find.
169 posted on 06/26/2002 9:50:22 AM PDT by tepsiar
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To: dheretic; VA Advogado
>>If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to hide.

Sounds like an adage that should be applied to the FBI, NSA, CIA, and every presidential administration during my lifetime. Full disclosure should be applied to these organizations first, since they do NOT have the rights guaranteed by the 4th Amendment - Once we see how well that works, THEN we'll talk about applying it to the People, to whom the 4th Amendment applies.
170 posted on 06/26/2002 9:57:37 AM PDT by tepsiar
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To: VA Advogado
Sounds like you're backing up this idiocy of looking at what books 'possible' terrorists are reading. I'm not sure what you're backing here.

But, some food for thought: The FEEBERS have compiled a 'Terrorist grocery list' of food items that 'possible terrorists' might buy. Likely quote,"Hey! this guy just bought some salted peanuts! Get him!" (/Joke) And if they really want to get picky, if you have an EZ-Pass tag on your car, they know where you are at what time based off of the time stamp on your tag. (A guy got a speeding ticket here in New York because he 'didn't take the usual amount of time between toll booths.' Big Brother is watching.) And if you have a cell phone, they can triangulate your position. (they caught a crook that way.) This will be easier to do once the Enhanced 911 system gets put in. And if you are renting a car, it is possible that the company itself has a GPS installed on it to keep track of inventory. (This month's Popular Science details this one...) Very easy to use against someone. And Metro Card? Gets logged as well, if the system works properly. So they can find out which train you're on, and when. We shouldn't have to live in fear of being spied on by our own elected officials and the guys that are supposed to uphold and protect the law.

The government does not have the right to keep track of you. I seem to remember an amendment that protects me from unreasonable and unlawful search and seizure. And what happens when someone buys some snack or takes out a book the government doesn't like? Another Ruby Ridge? Wake up being accused of being a terrorist just because you took out a book on military history, or a Tom Clancy techno-thriller? Where does the line get drawn? Is it okay if one person reads that or east that, but not someone else?

Who would decide that?

171 posted on 06/26/2002 12:48:33 PM PDT by Darksheare
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To: Asmodeus
I think the purpose here is to monitor the PC access to browser based email, a service that is offered for free by the libraries and could be used by jihadis to send/recieve email and browse websites. More so than books, i think.
172 posted on 06/26/2002 2:55:33 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Asmodeus
Wouldnt it be easier, and less infringement on our liberties, to just deport the illegals, and stop immigration?
173 posted on 06/26/2002 3:29:01 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: rstevens
Sarah Brady's lawyer will be sending along the plaigarism complaint shortly....
174 posted on 06/26/2002 9:34:24 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: hoosierham
What if FBI agents actually READ books on freedom, the Constitution, and the rights of American citizens....naww, I was just fantasizing.
175 posted on 06/27/2002 4:50:41 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: hoosierham
Like I said in a post that the moderator removed..

My God! The FEEBer pukes can READ!?

176 posted on 06/30/2002 2:30:28 PM PDT by Darksheare
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