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FBI Begins Visiting Libraries
Associated Press ^ | June 24, 2002 | Christopher Newton

Posted on 06/24/2002 3:34:40 PM PDT by Asmodeus

WASHINGTON –– The FBI is visiting libraries nationwide and checking the reading records of people it suspects of having ties to terrorists or plotting an attack, library officials say.

The FBI effort, authorized by the antiterrorism law enacted after the Sept. 11 attacks, is the first broad government check of library records since the 1970s when prosecutors reined in the practice for fear of abuses.

The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment Monday, except to note that such searches are now legal under the Patriot Act that President Bush signed last October.

Libraries across the nation were reluctant to discuss their dealings with the FBI. The same law that makes the searches legal also makes it a criminal offense for librarians to reveal the details or extent.

"Patron information is sacrosanct here. It's nobody's business what you read," said Kari Hanson, director of the Bridgeview Public Library in suburban Chicago.

Hanson said an FBI agent came seeking information about a person, but her library had no record of the person. Federal prosecutors allege Global Relief Foundation, an Islamic charity based in the Chicago suburb, has ties to Osama bin Laden's terror network

The University of Illinois conducted a survey of 1,020 public libraries in January and February and found that 85 libraries had been asked by federal or local law enforcement officers for information about patrons related to Sept. 11, said Ed Lakner, assistant director of research at the school's Library Research Center.

The libraries that reported FBI contacts were nearly all in large urban areas.

In Florida, Broward County library director Sam Morrison said the FBI had recently contacted his office. He declined to elaborate on the request or how many branch libraries were involved.

"We've heard from them and that's all I can tell you," Morrison said. He said the FBI specifically instructed him not to reveal any information about the request.

The library system has been contacted before. A week after the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI subpoenaed Morrison to provide information on the possible use of computer terminals by some of the suspected hijackers in the Hollywood, Fla., area.

In October, investigators revisited the county's main library in Fort Lauderdale and also checked a regional library in Coral Springs.

At least 15 of the 19 hijackers had Florida connections.

The process by which the FBI gains access to library records is quick and mostly secret under the Patriot Act.

First, the FBI must obtain a search warrant from a court that meets in secret to hear the agency's case. The FBI must show it has reason to suspect that a person is involved with a terrorist or a terrorist plot – far less difficult than meeting the tougher legal standards of probable cause, required for traditional search warrants or reasonable doubt, required for convictions.

With the warrant, FBI investigators can visit a library and gain immediate access to the records.

Judith Krug, the American Library Association's director for intellectual freedom, said the FBI was treading on the rights it is supposed to be upholding.

"It's unfortunate because these records and this information can be had with so little reason or explanation," Krug said. "It's super secret and anyone who wants to talk about what the FBI did at their library faces prosecution. That has nothing to do with patriotism."

Krug tells worried librarians who call that they should keep only the records they need and should discard records that would reveal which patron checked out a book and for how long.

She is frustrated by the hate mail she says she receives when she speaks out against the Patriot Act.

"People are scared and they think that by giving up their rights, especially their right to privacy, they will be safe," Krug said. "But it wasn't the right to privacy that let terrorists into our nation. It had nothing to do with libraries or library records."

Some libraries said they will still resist government efforts to obtain records.

Pat McCandless, assistant director for public services for Ohio State University's libraries, said, "State law and professional ethics say we do not convey patron information and that is still our stance.

"To the best of our ability, we would try to support patron confidentiality," she said.


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To: Timesink
Show up at an anti-Clown FReeper rally. Get ID'd by the SS. Get put on the list. Get your library record pulled. Get imprisoned. Pretty easy to get into the system IMO. It's getting out that's the hard part.

EBUCK

121 posted on 06/25/2002 11:19:10 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Auntie Mame
This is a good thing. It certainly makes me realize the Feds aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

Which is exactly what they want you to think. You may want to consider the way the meaning of the word "is" was debated and apply that same methodology to the word "terrorist" before you throw your support in for this.

EBUCK

122 posted on 06/25/2002 11:21:26 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: billybudd
A couple of things that immediately strike me. 1) I haven't been to a public library since about 1975. Any library since about 1979. I'm not sure who spends their time sitting a library reading materials or surfing the web. I'm guessing it is someone that can't afford to buy a 10 dollar book from Amazon.com.... or someone that can't buy a $150 166 mhz computer and pay $9 for an internet connection.

2) It is a public library. Meaning it is owned by the people. (the government) It's not a private library for persons to do private business in. Just as one would expect a private library or a private school to be able to make its own rules about how it functions, so one would expect a public library to have rules that are made by its owners (the public). And the public makes those rules through its elected governmental represenatives.

The constitution is a wonderful document. But it isn't the inspired word of God. And there is no way that our founding fathers invisioned 21st century America with all of its complexities. That's the beauty of the constitution... it leaves ways for the public to make laws and decisions that effect their lives into an unpredictable future.

123 posted on 06/25/2002 11:37:01 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Kerberos
I find this to be the same as the "court orders" to see what books you've bought from a retailer.

Book stores and librarians complain about a request for this information but I am disturbed that they even keep a record of everything that I've bought or checked out.

Once a book has been checked back in, it should be removed from my record.

We don't even have to sign a card in the back of the book anymore to leave a permenant record of what we've checked out.

If the people with the books would stop being so nosey, there wouldn't be any records for the government to request.

124 posted on 06/25/2002 11:49:34 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Salman
Round up everybody who reads Tom Clancy's novels.

Too late. Tampa teen kamimaze terrorist Charles Bishra/Bishop read Clancy novels and even lifted part of The Sum Of All Fears for his suicide note. He made a threat about a stolen nuke being used at the Super Bowl (which is why is note was not released for several weeks, conveniently after the Super Bowl).

125 posted on 06/25/2002 11:52:56 AM PDT by weegee
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To: The Vast Right Wing
At this time there is not even a requirement to keep such data. If it exists, it can rightfully be sought out.
126 posted on 06/25/2002 11:55:52 AM PDT by weegee
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To: kjam22
You are treading very close to the "living document" interpretation that is the foudation for everything I, and many others, find wrong with our gubment today. The Constitution was written as a be-all end-all gubment rule book. Any breach of its rule or intent is, in my athiest view, blasphemy of the highest order and should be punnished as outright treason. The more people like you take this view the more the gubment and all of its minions get a little more elbow room to go around that document in the persuit of "other than honest" ends.

EBUCK

127 posted on 06/25/2002 11:59:27 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: EU=4th Reich
It would be interesting to find out if they are monitoring the computer use as well. See if there is a pattern of use visiting sites like Islamic Jihad.

There are security cameras in many libraries. Maybe they can spot some terrorists.

The ALA will probably wail about free speech if there is any attempt to even examine the types of sites (not even tying the visitors to any particular user). The ALA has defended porn access in the libraries and even helped to propagate information on how kids can circumvent webfilters at the library and at home.

Private employers don't permit the freedoms of web browsing or emailing (they are even permitted to scan outgoing/incoming email for corporate espionage and other transgressions). Since the library internet systems are there primarily for research purposes (not Chat, online-chess, or porn viewing/printing) the users do not need to have a reasonable expectation of privacy (they are in a public building in a very open area). Go to Kinkos or a cyberbar for contracted "private" computer usage, or better yet, buy your own.

128 posted on 06/25/2002 12:07:06 PM PDT by weegee
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To: EBUCK
But you do agree that they left a way to ammend the constitution. That they left all the powers not specifically mentioned to "the people" or "the states". Right???

So a strict reading would say that the people and the states can make laws about libraries... because we just dont' find the word Library mentioned in the consitution. It is the living interpretations that pretend that clauses which never address the internet or libraries somehow regulate them instead that 10th ammendment that specifically leaves unmentioned powers to the people or the states.

129 posted on 06/25/2002 12:09:21 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: VA Advogado
It's funny to watch the lefty librarians defend "Free Speech" when they routinely turn down "right wing" books on abortion, guns, Clinton, and other topics.

These are copies of the books donated by patrons or even the author or publisher. And we are talking about some books on the best sellers list.

I've followed the news reports on some of these books in the past. It is really shameful behavior.

The Public Library - They shelve so you don't have to decide...

130 posted on 06/25/2002 12:12:25 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Timesink
So tell me, Ms. Krug. Did you ever get around to studying how many copies of "Stupid White Men" America's "intellectually free" public librarians stocked their shelves with in the last 12 months vs. the number of copies of "Bias"?

But once a patron colors in a copy of "Stupid White Men", it is no longer "any good"...

131 posted on 06/25/2002 12:15:58 PM PDT by weegee
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To: kjam22
You are right. Those avenues are left open to the STATES or the PEOPLE...not the fed of which the FBI is a part. And it is the fed that concernes me. If Oregon decides to invade my privacy I can move to Idaho or any of the other 49 to seek freedom. When the fed oversteps its bounds it effects everone everywhere and usually in an un-equal fashion.

And yes they left a way to ammend the constitution but they do not seem to use that avenue. Choosing expedience over Constitutional procedure. That is where the living interpretation comes into play. Someone aske the question...

"Does the constitution allow for this new gubment increase?"

and someone answers "Well, if you interpret "general welfare" this way it sure does!"

"How do we get the constitution interpreted this way?"

"Well, you just appoint someone to the bench that thinks like us, or is indebted to us, and viola!"

"Kewl, that means we can do just about anything we want right?"

"As a matter of fact it does....it's gonna be a BRAVE NEW WORLD by the time we're done..."

EBUCK

132 posted on 06/25/2002 12:25:54 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: weegee
I went to my local library to check out "BIAS" a few months back and they had it there. It was covered in some jack-ass liberal note-taking prpo-spewage jargon so I bought my own copy but at least they had it. It was right next to 12 copies of Jane has 2 mommies.....

EBUCK

133 posted on 06/25/2002 12:27:58 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: billybudd
While we're at it, anyone against smoking stands with the Nazis.


134 posted on 06/25/2002 12:34:16 PM PDT by weegee
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To: kjam22
The constitution is a wonderful document. But it isn't the inspired word of God. And there is no way that our founding fathers invisioned 21st century America with all of its complexities. That's the beauty of the constitution... it leaves ways for the public to make laws and decisions that effect their lives into an unpredictable future.

I've heard this argument from HCI too.

135 posted on 06/25/2002 12:35:37 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: dheretic
Here's the American Library Association's website.

Sure is a lot of talk of "democratic society" and "diversity".

ALA Interests and Activities

The library will not even enforce MPAA ratings when it comes to access for minors. My public library includes some X rated "art" films from the 1970s. Don't know if they have a subscription to Playboy (for the articles, naturally).

The ALA's position against internet filtering has nothing to do with the half-assed nature of filter screening. It has everything to do with the notion of blocking access to something, even on the basis of the age of the viewer.

136 posted on 06/25/2002 12:53:29 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Hugin
The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) is needed to prosecute Federal offenses and when a crime extends beyond the scope of one state (local law enforcement would not have the jurisdiction to prosecute the criminal fully).
137 posted on 06/25/2002 12:57:59 PM PDT by weegee
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To: dheretic
You've used the phrase "Vietnam war on terrorism" several times now.

Is this because:

We are not fighting it to win it?

We shouldn't even be fighting?

We "can't" win it?

138 posted on 06/25/2002 1:03:12 PM PDT by weegee
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To: EBUCK
EBuck, I just want the FBI to use whatever means necessary to catch these killers before they have a chance to use WMDs on my family, who are scattered all over this country and the world. Congress will clamp down on any abuses. I think actually that the Democrats, over the past forty years, have enfeebled the FBI and CIA to such an extent that 911 was allowed to happen.
139 posted on 06/25/2002 1:04:40 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: wcbtinman
Beware that the bookdealer that sold you that book may have kept a record of that transaction...
140 posted on 06/25/2002 1:05:37 PM PDT by weegee
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