Posted on 06/24/2002 3:34:40 PM PDT by Asmodeus
WASHINGTON The FBI is visiting libraries nationwide and checking the reading records of people it suspects of having ties to terrorists or plotting an attack, library officials say.
The FBI effort, authorized by the antiterrorism law enacted after the Sept. 11 attacks, is the first broad government check of library records since the 1970s when prosecutors reined in the practice for fear of abuses.
The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment Monday, except to note that such searches are now legal under the Patriot Act that President Bush signed last October.
Libraries across the nation were reluctant to discuss their dealings with the FBI. The same law that makes the searches legal also makes it a criminal offense for librarians to reveal the details or extent.
"Patron information is sacrosanct here. It's nobody's business what you read," said Kari Hanson, director of the Bridgeview Public Library in suburban Chicago.
Hanson said an FBI agent came seeking information about a person, but her library had no record of the person. Federal prosecutors allege Global Relief Foundation, an Islamic charity based in the Chicago suburb, has ties to Osama bin Laden's terror network
The University of Illinois conducted a survey of 1,020 public libraries in January and February and found that 85 libraries had been asked by federal or local law enforcement officers for information about patrons related to Sept. 11, said Ed Lakner, assistant director of research at the school's Library Research Center.
The libraries that reported FBI contacts were nearly all in large urban areas.
In Florida, Broward County library director Sam Morrison said the FBI had recently contacted his office. He declined to elaborate on the request or how many branch libraries were involved.
"We've heard from them and that's all I can tell you," Morrison said. He said the FBI specifically instructed him not to reveal any information about the request.
The library system has been contacted before. A week after the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI subpoenaed Morrison to provide information on the possible use of computer terminals by some of the suspected hijackers in the Hollywood, Fla., area.
In October, investigators revisited the county's main library in Fort Lauderdale and also checked a regional library in Coral Springs.
At least 15 of the 19 hijackers had Florida connections.
The process by which the FBI gains access to library records is quick and mostly secret under the Patriot Act.
First, the FBI must obtain a search warrant from a court that meets in secret to hear the agency's case. The FBI must show it has reason to suspect that a person is involved with a terrorist or a terrorist plot far less difficult than meeting the tougher legal standards of probable cause, required for traditional search warrants or reasonable doubt, required for convictions.
With the warrant, FBI investigators can visit a library and gain immediate access to the records.
Judith Krug, the American Library Association's director for intellectual freedom, said the FBI was treading on the rights it is supposed to be upholding.
"It's unfortunate because these records and this information can be had with so little reason or explanation," Krug said. "It's super secret and anyone who wants to talk about what the FBI did at their library faces prosecution. That has nothing to do with patriotism."
Krug tells worried librarians who call that they should keep only the records they need and should discard records that would reveal which patron checked out a book and for how long.
She is frustrated by the hate mail she says she receives when she speaks out against the Patriot Act.
"People are scared and they think that by giving up their rights, especially their right to privacy, they will be safe," Krug said. "But it wasn't the right to privacy that let terrorists into our nation. It had nothing to do with libraries or library records."
Some libraries said they will still resist government efforts to obtain records.
Pat McCandless, assistant director for public services for Ohio State University's libraries, said, "State law and professional ethics say we do not convey patron information and that is still our stance.
"To the best of our ability, we would try to support patron confidentiality," she said.
Nothing, unless that guy is already under FBI suspicion of terrorist activities. The PATRIOT Act doesn't say the FBI can just waltz in the door of a library and say "Give us a list of everyone who has checked out book X in the past fifteen years." They can only ask for the records of a SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, and only after receiving a warrant.
Don't start hanging out with Al-Qaida, and the FBI is never going to see your checkout list.
You're exactly right on this point. They are scrutinizing specific individuals suspected of involvment with terrorists/terrorist organizations and yes, they *must* have a warrant.
Don't start hanging out with Al-Qaida, and the FBI is never going to see your checkout list
Good advice.
Bush = Clinton
Since they're handed a subpoena for records. The Patriot Act didn't change any law relating to producing records when served with a subpoena. I get the impression that the subpoena can be issued a little easier because of the Patriot Act and they may not have to notify the person (and thereby warn him or her) for whom they are looking at records, that's all.
Honestly, I find it hard to understand all the angst on this thread. This is a good thing. It certainly makes me realize the Feds aren't sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Sounds like whatever these terrorist types are doing in libraries, they're gonna have to find another venue.
They're under an obligation to the taxpayers.
Good point. What about private libraries, say at a private higher-ed institution? As I understand the Patriot Act, a subpoena is needed to access this information?
If for some reason, the FBI wanted to know why I was reading certain books, I would defer answering. The FBI having access to the information does not obligate you to answer why you checked out the books you did from the library.
I'm suprised at you. You really should know better. When has a minor tecnicality like the LAW ever stopped an agency of the govt?
Oh, well. Any records that librarians keep are for their own convenience, not the FBI's. If they decide to keep no records at all, so be it.
they will do ANYTHING EXCEPT close the borders, throw out foriegners, block visas
they will take YOUR rights, "for safety", but will not do the very thing that would ensure safety for all, because by so doing there would be little excuse to take away rights.
who needs conspiracy theories when the truth is self evident?
would you leave your doors and windows open at night and then be surprised when you are attacked? would your solution be to let everyone in, but just check up on them as they roam around your house?
this is absurd. that there is another agenda here is evidenced by the preposterous nature of their actions and inaction.
"ye shall know the tree by the fruit it bears"
this is the law of identity.
the identity of a thing is determined by its behavior, not its appearance.
SEC. 105. EXPANSION OF NATIONAL ELECTRONIC CRIME TASK FORCE INITIATIVE.
The Director of the United States Secret Service shall take appropriate actions to develop a national network of electronic crime task forces, based on the New York Electronic Crimes Task Force model, throughout the United States, for the purpose of preventing, detecting, and investigating various forms of electronic crimes, including potential terrorist attacks against critical infrastructure and financial payment systems
It also clearly states not to Profile Found here.
SEC. 102. SENSE OF CONGRESS CONDEMNING DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ARAB AND MUSLIM AMERICANS.
(a) FINDINGS- Congress makes the following findings:
(1) Arab Americans, Muslim Americans, and Americans from South Asia play a vital role in our Nation and are entitled to nothing less than the full rights of every American.
(2) The acts of violence that have been taken against Arab and Muslim Americans since the September 11, 2001, attacks against the United States should be and are condemned by all Americans who value freedom.
(3) The concept of individual responsibility for wrongdoing is sacrosanct in American society, and applies equally to all religious, racial, and ethnic groups.
(4) When American citizens commit acts of violence against those who are, or are perceived to be, of Arab or Muslim descent, they should be punished to the full extent of the law.
(5) Muslim Americans have become so fearful of harassment that many Muslim women are changing the way they dress to avoid becoming targets.
(6) Many Arab Americans and Muslim Americans have acted heroically during the attacks on the United States, including Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a 23-year-old New Yorker of Pakistani descent, who is believed to have gone to the World Trade Center to offer rescue assistance and is now missing
Now Please understand that this can be used against ANYONE for any given reason. These are very dangerous powers to be given to a agency that's never been held accountable for past crimes!!
Live Free or Die Trying
Probably this one...
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
That's where the right to privacy comes in. Don't get me wrong, I do think the librarians are often wack-jobs, their insistence on pornographic access being just one example. But I think that library patrons have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Am I OK with the FBI conducting searches with warrants of library records to combat terrorism? Yes.
Am I also concerned with what someone like Clinton might do with powers like that? Yes.
There's a lot of room for mixed feelings about some of the measures being taken to combat terror.
Hey you, American citizen, your the criminal! not people like me!
We dont need no steeenkin badges!
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So we should go ahead and shred the Constitution in order to keep others from shredding the Constitution? Logic has merit, look into aquiring some.
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