Posted on 06/24/2002 12:48:28 PM PDT by RCW2001
Bush Middle East Speech Discussion Thread
Israel's semi-occupation is far better than an armed Palestinian state. What sense does that make? Under Oslo agreements the Pallies have been administering the West Bank and Gaza for the last number of years and have done no good for their people. PallieLand has devolved into an even worse s**thole. Arafat started his disastrous Jihad/Intifada after he walked out on Oslo negotiations.
Israel should withdraw unilaterally so Pallies can make a better war and Jihad against the Jews of Israel? Not likely.
The point is a bit more subtle, yet direct, than that:
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt bethink thyself among all the nations, whither HaShem thy G-d hath driven thee,
2 and shalt return unto HaShem thy G-d, and hearken to His voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thy heart, and with all thy soul;
3 that then HaShem thy G-d will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the peoples, whither HaShem thy G-d hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine that are dispersed be in the uttermost parts of heaven, from thence will HaShem thy G-d gather thee, and from thence will He fetch thee.
5 And HaShem thy G-d will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and He will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And HaShem thy G-d will circumcise thy heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love HaShem thy G-d with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
7 And HaShem thy G-d will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, that persecuted thee.
8 And thou shalt return and hearken to the voice of HaShem, and do all His commandments which I command thee this day.
9 And HaShem thy G-d will make thee over-abundant in all the work of thy hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good; for HaShem will again rejoice over thee for good, as He rejoiced over thy fathers;
10 if thou shalt hearken to the voice of HaShem thy G-d, to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the law; if thou turn unto HaShem thy G-d with all thy heart, and with all thy soul.
11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not too hard for thee, neither is it far off.
12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say: 'Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, and make us to hear it, that we may do it?'
13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say: 'Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, and make us to hear it, that we may do it?'
14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil,
16 in that I command thee this day to love HaShem thy G-d, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments and His statutes and His ordinances; then thou shalt live and multiply, and HaShem thy G-d shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest in to possess it.
17 But if thy heart turn away, and thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
18 I declare unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish; ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over the Jordan to go in to possess it.
19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before thee life and death, the blessing and the curse; therefore choose life, that thou mayest live, thou and thy seed;
20 to love HaShem thy G-d, to hearken to His voice, and to cleave unto Him; for that is thy life, and the length of thy days; that thou mayest dwell in the land which HaShem swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
You are the first besides me that I have seen to state this simple fact. I would add some emphesis....All the moderate Arabs are part of the solution. The initial Cheney trip was declared a failure and the sheeple here and elsewhere bought the press line.
Cheney was the President's agent delivering the plan and they all bought it. Cheney's mission was a total success. The Speech today is the fruit.
President Bush and Crown Prince Abdullah will be histories hero's. Their time is now. The plan is unfolding.
THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT
Definitely. I did like how he addressed the Palestinian people, and not Arafat (in fact asking them to replace the fat man). Hopefully Yassir can get squeezed out of the picture, since he only plays boths sides against the middle, plays helpless to command his people to stop the terrorism while pretending he is their leader, and has yet to produce any worthwhile actions.
The right thing? I think the right thing would be to say...the USA couldn't care less what happens there. You guys have been fighting there since Joshua crossed the Joran river. We don't care. Let us know when one of you defeats the other because we'd like to be able to visit Jerusalem and the surrounding areas now and then.
In the mean time, we have real issues that affect American citizens.
Really? That's what the cult-of-Bush had been doing for months, since the "Who is like Bush who can make war with him" sentiments are coming from them. Perhaps they should realize what kind of picture they are painting.
I'll be back on these threads tomorrow, though! ;^)
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