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To: Jim Robinson
All......

This country we are now losing, was born of a revolution, with violence if you will. Are we to condemn our own birthright???? Our Founding Fathers would be ashamed of us for our timidity. Only 30 per cent of the colonists supported, bled and died for the revolution. The other 70 percent sat on the sidelines, wringing their hands, all the while waiting to join the victor, like vultures awaiting the spoils.

Prior to the revolution, the majority were willing to forego freedom, bow to the King in servitude and pay whatever taxes were levied. Fortunately for us, some were willing to give their all, and now we squander it away.

92 posted on 06/23/2002 2:31:03 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: cynicom
They fought for independence from a "foreign" King. They fought for the right to self-government, representation and local control. They won and got it. They established a Constitution and a government based on the rule of law, We still have that same system. We are still a nation of free people who have the power to control government through the ballot box. We vote for and send our representatives to our local, state and federal governments. If you do not like the current government, then you have the right to form a party of like minded people to join you in an effort to vote out those you don't like and replace them with the ones you do. However, if you cannot muster enough people to your way of thinking and your attempt to get your candidates elected fails, you do not have the right to take up arms and start blasting away at people. That is the way of banana republics.
105 posted on 06/23/2002 2:58:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Man .... I so hate this thread ... even as I see I dodged a bullet ... by waiting to reply ... for there is some wackiness here ... even as some speak without knowing what the heck they are talking about.

OK ... we are NOT losing our Country ... but we ARE at war and things have to change ... even as the left will try to eat the right and the right keeps trying to scrape off that third party glued to the bottom of its shoe ...

Meet Louis, please ... and his brother Alberto ....

I first met them both back in the early 90's .... I had thought to start a business of my own, you see ... and was at a wholesaler who had just brought in some ADD-a-Man workers .....illegal, all of them ... and all of us knew this ... though I was quakin' in my shoes ... at barely 5'1 to 2 ... if I stand up really straight ... and 100 pounds ... while Louis was topping out at 250 ... but this was back then ... even though it doesn't make it right ...

I wanted to plant pretty gardens, you see ... and needed some help ...

One contractor after another culled out the group ... never bothering to ask any questions ... never bothering to wonder what brought these men here .... ... and I felt like a criminal, which I was, of course ....

OK .... I moved up to Louis and introduced myself and told him I had a small gardening business ... and I needed some help. I watched to see if he understood what I had said .. and he nodded quickly, called me Flacka ... which stuck for the next 12 years ... and the very next words out of his mouth were, "Quiero ser un ciudadano de los Estados Desatados de America. Me pueda mostrar usted como hacer esto?"

There followed a journey which taught me more than I would have ever expected ... ... my little company finally totaled 18 immigrants ... only six illegal ... for Louis and I learned how to work the system ... and first naturalized new ones ... and then struggled through the red tape to make them all official. I never missed a chance to see them raise their hand ... and hold their heart up ... and Pledge Allegiance....

In November, of 2000 ... we all piled into my truck .... and, Mexican music blaring ...pulled up to the voting station ... and pulled the lever for G.W. Bush.

I am the Godmother to Louis' little girl .... and when circumstances dictated ... and I had to give this loved business over to Louis ... who researched ... and found loans ... and funded himself

.... He arrived at my house, of an early Spring day this year ... his crew ... which had been my crew ... planted my flowers in my pots for me ... and, in his quiet dignity, told me ... "Flacka ... you made me what I am ... I bring it back to you."

So. What are we to do with these earnest and heartfelt wanna-be citizens?!

There must be a way ... and I know I broke ALL the rules ... and wouldn't do it now, post September 11th ... still ... they are waiting ... so very much wanting to be a part of us ... and deservingly so ...

Thank you for indulging me ... or not ... depending on the comments to follow ....

146 posted on 06/23/2002 3:25:53 PM PDT by illstillbe
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To: cynicom
Are we to condemn our own birthright????

Does that mean because you were born white, you own this country ? Your birth right included the right to own slaves ? Do you still want that ? If you claim special rights because you are descendant from the founding fathers, I think you need to admit that you owe reparations to the blacks.

I thought america was about making your own way, not riding off the backs of your fathers.

297 posted on 06/23/2002 7:29:22 PM PDT by staytrue
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