[Joe Hadenuf]

And thanks for being up front and fair with me. And I probably should have reworded this thread to begin with.

I know you don't consider this issue a crises, and I will admit, for a while, that stung like a horsewhip, only because I have seen the negative results of this issue close up and very personal. I guess having as much respect for you as I do, I expected you to have a different attitude towards this. My mistake.

[Jim Robinson]

BTW: My wife's father was a foreman on a ranch in Reedley (about 30 miles east of Fresno). Her grandfather was an immigrant from Finland. He was a school teacher and he fled the communists. Had to work as a coal miner and then farmer here in America. Had it not been for immigration, my sons John and Chris would not even be here.