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As I recall, the constitution has ways of maintaining itself. These so called "losses of rights" which amount to a few really bad people getting their a** thrown in jail will get worked out. If you believe so strongly that they are the harbringers of all of our future, then get into the ACLU and start your lawsuits. The supreme court can decide that the executive branch is out of order and they can do what ever you would like with the likes of Padilla.

Me, I guess I am a Bush-bot. I would like to give him some slack and not worry that the sky (I mean the constitution) is falling. My guess, the constitution will survive Bush better than it would have survived Clinton or Gore. And these characters who represent us all and are locked up are not being held secretly. We can and will deal with them and their crimes, now what about the arguement that they are soldiers in a battle without uniforms and that their crimes don't fall under the justice system but are more appropriate to a field of battle? Have you ever seen spys caught on the battlefield being turned over to the lawyers? Does a fighter on the battlefield always have to have a judge's opinion before he can return fire?

Yeah I'd like to add to your excellent post. I just didn't realize how much some of these people missed Clinton/Gore. Many of them show their true colors (not all). One dead give-away, is that they say Bush has done more than Clinton to destroy the constitution. Maybe there is a way it could be arranged to let these people have their fearless leaders back. Maybe we could set up an island and let Bill Clinton be the king, or president; then his adoring groupies on here could join him there, with Queen Hillary, and leave us in peace! (sarcasm)