[cake_crumb]

"thanks for the reference ..."

NP...unfortunately, a_Turk, having suffered a humiliating defeat in the argument, has gone off to disrupt another thread.

[Bobby777]

it's good to have references like that because I think the clear text, whether from the source or a commentary, as you noted, shows an obvious and clear reading ... one that, most Americans, if not a lot of the world, are woefully uneducated in ... and while they struggle to try and understand where the conflict comes from, it is made painfully clear and obvious ... FReegards ...