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To: MissAmericanPie
So, all of the rancor is someone else's fault?

I will accept my share of the responsibility for the arguments here, but I would think that the other side could also accept a share. Instead, you are saying that it's not your fault, because the RNC and President Bush didn't do what you wanted them to do.

In my opinion, this is not any sort of concession. I call and express my opinion to the White House and the RNC on each issue. If things don't turn out the way I would like, I must assume that either more people disagreed with me OR the White House has an overriding need to go against popular opinion.

If it is the latter, time will tell whether the President was right or the popular opinion ws correct.

1,638 posted on 06/23/2002 5:35:16 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Arguments are fine, that's what debate is about, civil arguments based on facts presented. So I don't see that you need to apologize for arguments. I haven't followed your posts so I don't know if you have insulted anyone by name calling.

It's really not as simple as you paint it. Immature people being upset about not getting their way and deciding to be in a snit about it, or throw a tantrum. What is at stake here is a little more critical to America's future than that. We already have one liberal party, we don't need to fight two liberal parties in order to promote conservative principles, now do we?

If you don't hold conservative principles it's no problem for you, but painting those who are concerned with the direction the country, and the Party are taking with a wide brush as pouting over a single issue, misses the mark entirely and doesn't really contribute to a solution.

Shook up conservatives can't really be talked down to like children and made to get into line with a liberal agenda that they feel will destroy America. They are not going to forget they love their country are they? They won't throw down America's future just to be liked, accepted, feel like part of the gang, or earn someone's approval.

So it's really not a matter of disagreeing with a few bills passed, or a single agenda, it's a matter of the fact that Bush has made it clear that he intends to move the Republican Party far left, now and forever more, and if conservatives balk about the Party no longer being conservative then he is willing to jettison conservatives that don't fall into line. Is it ok with you for some of us to be in a snit about that?

1,640 posted on 06/23/2002 6:11:50 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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