Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack

The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

[Roscoe]

Karl Hess was a Goldwater speechwriter as early as 1964.

[Jim Robinson]

Sure he did. Just keep repeating that over and over and maybe even you will believe it someday.

[DoughtyOne]

You laughing at me when your guy actually got less of the popular vote than Gore is rather humorous as well. Tell you what, if you're laughing at me after 2004 I'll be happy for you. I don't have a camel in this race, so I'll just be as content to let you guys revel in your victory as I was last time.

[marajade]

http://www.arizonarepublic.com /special39/articles/0605montin i05.html

[DoughtyOne]

Agreed.

[DoughtyOne]

Well you can believe that if you like, I don't believe it for a moment. Sorry. Didn't believe Hillary when she said she didn't know stuff either.

[tpaine]

"Traitor" has become a throwaway word to you libertarians.

They would be virtually speechless if they couldn't chant "traitor", "statist" and "Nazi".
742 - roscoe

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--- Roscoe chants as he falsely accuses libertarians. - Whatta tar baby.

[Demidog]

Ok, in my view, the Republicans seem to be in a pretty strong position at the moment with Bush in the Presidency vs the Democrats. And, I presume you are suggesting that the Libertarians or some other unnamed "party of principle" is in a stronger position to defeat them? I don't think so.

What is right and constitutional is not dependent upon the ability to win an election for its justification.

If there were only 4 of us spitting into the wind, I would still chose the constitution over any pragmatic "realpolitik" policy decision meant to pander to this or that special interest.

[DoughtyOne]

Ted Kennedy has dusted off Hillary's healthcare reform and has Bush's backing to the tune of $300 billion. I'm not sure when it's coming to the floor, but it's in the works.

[danmar]

So assuming that you're a conservative Republican

Make it more like "constitutionalist republican", has a nice ring to it, don't you think so?...

[Roscoe]

your guy actually got less of the popular vote than Gore

Thanks for the DU style pointless point.

[Jim Robinson]

Could be, but at least we recognize the real world fact that George Bush is the man in the Whitehouse and is therefore in the catbird's seat for getting reelected in 2004. Those who fantasize about Browne or Buchanan or Paul or whomever may be dreamimg big dreams, and perhaps even great dreams, but that's all they are. Dreams.

[agrandis]

I'm afraid that given today's "gimme, gimme - to h*** with the Constitution" American public, that success in politics (especially on a national level) is in itself a very bad sign. Of course, there IS a sizeable number of people who really are more Constitutional than the candidates for whom they vote - they just keep listening to the crap from Jennings and other talking heads abuot who "can win" and who can't. If these people would escape the "spirit of party" that Washington so presciently wanred against, and demand a candidate who would promise to govern under the Constitution, and meant it, we could shake the country.

No matter what happens, though, the good news is we get what we deserve, in the end.

[DoughtyOne]

Then focusing on that is helpful in what way?

[Torie]

Yes, but what does it entail (I am sure it has nothing to do with Hillarycare (you know, prohibiting docs from treating patients outside the system, and limiting where patients can go, and price controls, and all the rest that belly flopped) or I would have heard about it), and the 300 billion is over what period? How do you know Bush is supporting Teddy? Given your drastic predictions, I assumed you are on top of all the details here.

[Reagan Man]

>>>Yes, we will build up to fight for another day. In the meantime, we must hold our positions and not desert our posts or surrender to the enemy.

When I say stuff like this to other FReepers and what you also stated in RE#648 & #676, I get called every name in the book and then some. Guess it pays to be "THE BOSS". Right Jim?

[Torie]

Browne is particular has taken off his mask, and proved that he is in fact a nightmare.

[Demidog]

Just keep repeating that over and over and maybe even you will believe it someday.

I believe it. If I never said it again, I would believe that Bush's signing of CFR and the Patriot Act were crimes against the constitution and make Americans subject to the whims of the federal government. Al Quaeda is said to hate us because we're free.

Bush federalized airport security, refused to allow pilots to carry firearms, signed the Patriot act and signed CFR. All of which attack the freedoms supposedly guaranteed and protected by the constitution.

Jim, when you called Bush a coke-snorting traitor back in the days when Alan Keyes was the only republican running who actually relied upon the constitution for his guidance, you were shooting straight.

Only when it looked like Bush would win did you change your tune. I believe you made a mistake by jumping on the Bush bandwagon. He's not fit. He has no respect for the constitution.

Of all people, going what you've gone through in the lawsuit against the Post and the Times, you are the one person who should understand how important free speech is to a Free Republic.

Bush spit on that. With contempt.

[Roscoe]

"Good grief sinky, you wouldn't know a libertarian if D-dog jumped up & bit your silly ass." --Yappy

They just bark.

[MissAmericanPie]

"I will ask you. Who should replace Bush, regardless of party?"

Jumping in here with my personal choice, Tancredo. He's very conservative, yet knows how to hammer out a compromise that doesn't give away the farm, he is for controlling our borders, and he would do a great job conducting the war on terror. Why won't the Republican Party run a candidate like him? If we keep bowing to their leftist leanings, what chance is there that a Tancredo will ever be presented for a candidate?