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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: MJY1288
Oh Good Grief ... is this thread STILL going .. will it ever end ??

Some how I doubt it ..

2,121 posted on 06/24/2002 12:32:12 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Lazamataz
WOW, could you go back and do the same for all of your invectice, bile and complete mistatements, not to mention your personal attacks. But in your eyes you're perfect, in my eyes you're an __________fill in the blank (I would get banned if I did)

Can anyone guess what I was implying in this statement?

2,122 posted on 06/24/2002 12:32:34 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Lazamataz
I couldn't penetrate the crudity or the incorrect and scurrilous claim that I am pro-drug, so I read no further.

Fair enough. Laz, I'll add that you're one of my favorite FReepers on the Sunday talk show threads, even if we seem to disagree somewhat on the President.

2,123 posted on 06/24/2002 12:36:18 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: MJY1288
Can anyone guess what I was implying in this statement?

I could ... but I might get banned also ..LOL

2,124 posted on 06/24/2002 12:36:57 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Lazamataz
.. when you use them to parody people on this forum.

Hey, I was only making dreams come true...


I guess I'll have to delete that Kournikova-Lazamataz bearskin rug image...
2,125 posted on 06/24/2002 12:37:45 PM PDT by Registered
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To: MJY1288
  1. not to mention your personal attacks.
  2. in my eyes you're an __________fill in the blank (I would get banned if I did) ....Can anyone guess what I was implying in this statement?

POT THIS IS KETTLE... POT THIS IS KETTLE... YOU ARE BLACK, OVER

2,126 posted on 06/24/2002 12:38:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Registered
Hey, I was only making dreams come true..

Dude, I think you lose the moral high ground when you do stuff like that. Advice from a friend: Kill that image and others like it, and don't do any more parody pictures of freepers. Freepers are not public figures, and they should not be subject to this level of satirical attack.

Just my humble opinion, but I hope you take my advice.

2,127 posted on 06/24/2002 12:40:09 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Mo1
go back and look over his contributions here and on AGYG's compliment thread and and freepmail me your answer
2,128 posted on 06/24/2002 12:40:43 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Amelia
Fair enough. Laz, I'll add that you're one of my favorite FReepers on the Sunday talk show threads, even if we seem to disagree somewhat on the President.

:o) Now THIS sort of disagreement, I like. :o)

We'll talk in the future, and have constructive dialogue. Who knows, you might even sway me to your point of view or vice versa. (The former has been done before....) :o)

2,129 posted on 06/24/2002 12:41:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Now! did you have to pull the race card?, next I'll be a nazi :-)
2,130 posted on 06/24/2002 12:42:47 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Registered
I guess so.
2,131 posted on 06/24/2002 12:42:54 PM PDT by technochick99
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To: Reagan Man
No, it doesn't fit the agenda of conservatism, but not everything in politics and governing does all the time.

Then if it doesn't fit, then how does that play into a strategy of winning? I thought that winning was your definition of politics. According to you and the others, that is what we are here for isn't it? How are we winning by gaining nothing and giving everything, and governing against your core principles, and pissing off your core base too?

2,132 posted on 06/24/2002 12:43:54 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: Lazamataz
...and don't do any more parody pictures of freepers

Wow, I just deleted file folder "eschoir" and now I have 23.6 gig more H.D. space!!

Laz, you are a technowizard.

2,133 posted on 06/24/2002 12:44:48 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Lazamataz
We'll talk in the future, and have constructive dialogue.

Sounds good!

Who knows, you might even sway me to your point of view or vice versa.

Hopefully the former! ;-)

2,134 posted on 06/24/2002 12:45:46 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Lazamataz
Bovine scatology. I noted that communism is the redistribution of wealth and observed that this housing program is also redistribution of wealth. A=B and B=C, ergo A=C.

Apt label.

2,135 posted on 06/24/2002 12:46:50 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: toenail
There is nothing written that precludes them from enforcement; there is only the wink-wink unenforcement

Begging the question.

2,136 posted on 06/24/2002 12:50:40 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Registered
LOL!

(But, he's not a Freeper)

(Besides, I'm serious, it would be a much better tack to take. Personally, I've withdrawn some of my humor responses and supplanted them with coldly logical responses (with occasional lapses into flames, of course). It is a requirement of this time. Former friends have turned because I disagree with them and this disagreement so chafes them, that they turn ugly.

Because of this new environment I have found, and the political absolutism prevelant all over America lately, I've pulled back on being jovial and being funny. It might be a wise tack for all of us that appear to be in a minority viewpoint -- that viewpoint being, it is important to try to hold President Bush's feet to the fire as regards his conservativism, so that we can return our country to a Constitutional Republic.

You might want to follow suit. Just an idea.

2,137 posted on 06/24/2002 12:57:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Free Vulcan
Then if it doesn't fit, then how does that play into a strategy of winning? I thought that winning was your definition of politics. According to you and the others, that is what we are here for isn't it? How are we winning by gaining nothing and giving everything, and governing against your core principles, and pissing off your core base too?

First off, its not true, that President Bush is pissing off the vast majority of his conservative base. In politics, if you don't compromise your principles to some extent, you'll never accomplish a damn thing. The Founding Fathers understood that. The big question is, why can't people like you understand what Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Eisenhower and Reagan understood? I don't know how to be any clearer in my explanation to you. Again, many small and medium size farms are owned by conservatives and conservative minded independents, whose votes have a significant effect at election time.

President Reagan won victory in his day, because he appealed to Independents and dissatisfied Democrats. President Bush is following a similiar strategy. Conservative Republicans can't win with just conservative and mainstream Republicans votes alone. There aren't enough conservatives and Republicans around to assure victory and a good president knows very well, the path to victory is through building a united coalition.

2,138 posted on 06/24/2002 1:08:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Lazamataz
Now I'm really mad at em...they're not only aiding in the breakdown of our God-given unalienable rights, they are depriving us of your humor!

This means war!!

;-)

2,139 posted on 06/24/2002 1:11:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Roscoe
You are devoid of substance. You have joined Kevin Curry in the Bit Bucket. Buh Bye.
2,140 posted on 06/24/2002 1:18:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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