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Conservatives, Cut Bush Slack
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 22, 2002 | Thomas Roeser

Posted on 06/22/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by quidnunc

This summer will mark the 47th year since I took my first Republican job: as public relations director for the party in Minnesota. Since then I have rarely strayed from politics, or my party. I served as a staffer to two GOP congressmen, to a GOP governor, as a federal appointee to Richard Nixon and as a corporate executive who supported in Washington and Springfield much, if not all, of the Republican agenda.

You can describe me as a conservative. Thus I am qualified to say that although I dearly love conservatives, they tend to be querulous, disagreeable and threaten revolt when Republican office-holders don't please them. So it is now with George W. Bush. Here is a president who has surprised us all with the firmness and resolve he showed after 9/11. I must tell you I voted for him with less enthusiasm than I had for many of his predecessors. But his administration has pleased me often — most notably on two issues: defense of America and social policy.

Yet, Bush has to get re-elected in a country that is evenly divided on philosophy. Thus he must occasionally — on matters that sometimes offend conservatives — dip into the other side's ideology for support. He has done so on three notable occasions: on the issue of steel protectionism, where he departed his free-market proclamations; on the signing of a campaign finance bill tailored by his enemies, and allowing his attorney general (in the words of Libertarian Nat Hentoff in the Washington Times) "to send disguised agents into religious institutions, libraries and meetings of citizens critical of government policy without a previous complaint, or reason to believe that a crime has been committed."

In a perfect political world, where conservatives are in the majority, these things would be sufficient to encourage a boycott of the polls. Either that or a protest vote for the Democratic opposition. But we are not in a perfect world. We conservatives have a president who didn't receive a majority of the votes, and has one house of Congress against him. He must make compromises to get re-elected. Conservatives who do not understand the nature of politics ought to stay in their air-conditioned ivory towers and refrain from political activity altogether. If they cannot adjudge the stakes in this election and the difference between Bush and an Al Gore or a John Kerry (D-Mass.) or a Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.), they are foolish indeed.

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To: tpaine
No quotes, cites or links. One empty assertion after another.

America isn't about to collapse, no matter how much its enemies long for it.

1,901 posted on 06/23/2002 11:49:13 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: unsycophant
Obviously both the Democrats and the L.P. are ruled by ideology, which means they see the world colored by the glasses of their ideology and therefore they cannot see Reality. Hence all their schemes are doomed to failure and we all have to suffer as a result.

1,902 posted on 06/23/2002 11:51:03 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Roscoe
"Are you contending that OSHA has exempted abortions clinics from the uncited and unquoted regulations you've referred to? How do you know?"

"uncited and unquoted" per your request: http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=10051

http://www.priestsforlife.org/articles/contractwithamericanwomen.html

1,903 posted on 06/23/2002 11:51:09 PM PDT by toenail
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To: All
The Power of Words

In the beginning, God said
And it was.

Now, since we are made in His Image, albeit fallen and therefore dimmed, we nevertheless retain some of that creative power within us to do good.

The things that come out of our mouth have the ability to build up that which is broken down. If someone we meet has been through the valley of the shadow, we can, if we choose to do so, bring them hope...we can remind them of their worth and value as human beings. We can point out the good things about them, and help them regain sight of hope.

Words of kindness from a Pastor, a teacher, a parent, a neighbor might be the fuel that powers an individual to a life of productive service to their nation and their world.

Of course the flip side is that we also have a frightful power to destroy with the words of our mouth.

If a child accidently spills their soda pop on the couch in the living room, we can snap and tell them they are worthless...perhaps inflicting a wound which they will carry til the day they die.

Our spouse might never forget the harsh words spoken in the heat of an argument...and plant the evil seed that results years later in a bitter divorce that destroys everything good that was ever developed from the union.

I say all of this because there have been seeds of bitterness sown here of late; in this place we love and value.

A spirit of division and malice has taken root.

It is a spiritual attack on much that is good...threatening to destroy what has in the past, and has the potential in the future, to aid greatly in the restoration of the greatest free republic the earth has ever seen.

I would ask everyone here to stop and take stock. I do not exclude myself from this request.

It is my opinion that the moderators, and Jim, should take a new approach to how they handle the problems we are faced with here:

I believe that every post that is delivered with malice should be history.

I believe that every one of us knows a malicious post when they see it...if some moderators can't figure it out, then I believe Jim should find moderators who do have that much discernment.

Just my opinion.

If, in the heat of battle, I have allowed myself to slip into maliciousness against anyone here, I apologize. I will try to do better.

But realize that I care deeply about conservative principle, about my beliefs, about my country, about my party, and also about the future of Free Republic.

Regards to all,
EV

1,904 posted on 06/23/2002 11:51:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Dish it out then expect to take it.
1,905 posted on 06/23/2002 11:52:39 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: EternalVigilance
People are gonna fight. No ones going to see eye to eye on any one issue, even in a forum where people tend to have similar views on issues.

1,906 posted on 06/23/2002 11:55:10 PM PDT by cascademountaineer
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To: tpaine
Like I don't know how to interpret, "Check back in a year or two..." Get real. It certainly was weak, but your condescending intent was obvious.

Wouldn't it have saved you a lot of trouble if you had simply controlled yourself and explained who it was you were referring to? Maybe you're just incapable of such self-discipline.

It can't be pleasant for you to spend so much time turning nearly every person you encounter into an enemy - and you've made more than a couple tonight.

But I guess that's just "tough noogies".

You ought to try the words "I apologize" on for size.

1,907 posted on 06/23/2002 11:55:13 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Texasforever
Your spirit is quickly evident I see. And I don't say that maliciously...just factually.
1,908 posted on 06/23/2002 11:55:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: cascademountaineer
People are gonna fight. No ones going to see eye to eye on any one issue, even in a forum where people tend to have similar views on issues.

Yep.

But if they are gonna fight dirty, they are going to soil everything around them.

This thread has turned into something which makes me want to shower every hour.

1,909 posted on 06/23/2002 11:58:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
This thread has turned into something which makes me want to shower every hour.

Yeah, although given the subject matter its bound to be kind of controversial. Yeah some of the dissing gets old, but it also goes to show that debate (arguing?) is alive and well and we all have a pulse.

While surfing a couple weeks back I stumbled across a columnists who wrote an article around the subject of FR. She was suprised by the amount of debate that goes on among conservatives. I dont think theres much debate that goes on at DU and the rest besides sloganeering, so I tend to think what we do is better than no debate at all.

1,910 posted on 06/24/2002 12:05:29 AM PDT by cascademountaineer
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I routinely apologise to many people for many things. -- We all do.

- I do not apologise for imagined insults to specious questions posed by snippy buttinskies at flamefests. -- Good evening, madam.
1,911 posted on 06/24/2002 12:06:31 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: EternalVigilance
Your spirit is quickly evident I see. And I don't say that maliciously...just factually.

I have not invaded the sacred world of the Keyes threads But I have lurked there. Your sanctimonious posturing is a odious to say the least. I have in the past tried every approach to the EOP's. I have tried serious debate, I have tried humor, I have tried reason. To no avail. I have given up because you and you ilk have no concept of the reality we face as a nation. I have decided that the best course is just to laugh at you and approach you with the ridicule you and your like minded allies so richly deserve. I am SICK of being told what a “true conservative” should be. I am SICK of being called a “BushBOT”, a “STATIST”, a “Jack booted thug”, A “hater of the constitution”. I am SICK a bunch of 3rd part whackos that have the unmitigated GALL to LECTURE we naive Republicans on what it takes to win and then to threaten us with losing their votes if we don’t “see the absolute TRUTH” they are oh so patiently trying to impart.

1,912 posted on 06/24/2002 12:08:41 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; tpaine
Why people need to treat each other so poorly on FreeRepublic is a mystery to me.

If I may, you are deserving of an apology and your reply is typical of Freepers that I admire the most. Sincere, honest, well, you know the rest. Thanks.

Were our constitution not under attack by both the right and left at various times we would be living in the utopia envisioned by our founders. When the blueprint for our future is violated, some are more incensed than others.

The printed word (this forum for example) often lacks the tone that might accompany the thought being expressed at the time. I've read responses that I took the wrong way simply due to the words chosen by the person writing. I've learned to chalk it up to each person's style when reading their replys sometimes. I would not want to see tpaine banned for rudeness as he seriously defends the constitution. It has been under attack and continues to be and I'd find it very difficult to abandone those dug into the trenches trying to defend it. I've thickened my skin toward the guys who might one day jump on a grenade on my behalf, 'cause I'll never know who that person might be.

1,913 posted on 06/24/2002 12:11:41 AM PDT by budwiesest
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To: EternalVigilance
Your words were written in evident kindness, EV. Thanks for posting. I feel the same way when I mistakenly wade into the "Let's Lynch All Those Blood-Sucking Muslims" threads, but realize there's no way to stem that tide of irrational hatred. Point out the injustice and hope another will notice is about all a person can honestly do.
1,914 posted on 06/24/2002 12:11:53 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: tpaine
I do not apologise for imagined insults to specious questions posed by snippy buttinskies at flamefests.

You need to watch "A Christmas Carol". Soon.

1,915 posted on 06/24/2002 12:12:56 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Texasforever
You ARE sick.
1,916 posted on 06/24/2002 12:13:30 AM PDT by tpaine
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A big thread.

Just by itself it makes quite a yarn.

1,917 posted on 06/24/2002 12:14:18 AM PDT by cascademountaineer
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To: toenail
From your source: "Next, there should be a requirement that abortion facilities meet the same medical standards as other ambulatory surgical clinics."

A new "requirement" would necessitate the creation of a new rule OR a change in the manner that the old rules were applied.

New regulations or a change in the manner that the old rules were applied would necessitate publication of a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking and a public comment period. Any new regulations created with a predetermined outcome and without changes in existing law would be subject to court challenge.

Pursuant to what law could a President order such a regulatory change to take place?

1,918 posted on 06/24/2002 12:14:31 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Texasforever
Why don't you address the substance of my post #1904, please?

By the way, I am a Republican, not the member of any third party.

1,919 posted on 06/24/2002 12:14:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: budwiesest
Thank you. I appreciate where you're coming from.
1,920 posted on 06/24/2002 12:15:26 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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