Mexico Wants Arizona Back (Now on Hannity & Colmbs

FoxNews ^ | 6/21/02 | FOXNEWS

[Mom_Grandmother]

Mexico, at least one person anyhow, wants several of our states back, they belong to Mexico. On Hannity & Colmbs Now!!!

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Too late the illegals already have it! i know i live close

[Joe Hadenuf]

Thank you, Rintense. Can't believe my fellow Texans aren't on this thread taking major offense. Mexico indeed! Over our dead bodies.

Here's a post from one of your Texas neighbors......

Why no! Nothing like that could happen to the great "Republic of Texas". We've got the Alamo. Why, our motto is "Don't Mess With Texas". We print it on T-shirts and refridgerator magnets and everything.

We are the biggest braggarts and chest beaters in the nation. You don't know what you are talking about. Illegal Mexicans aren't taken over Texas. Texas is conquering Mexico. yeah, that's it. That's the ticket. we will just keep telling ourselves that. That way we won't have our overblown pride hurt. Yeah! Thats it.

570 posted on 3/13/02 9:38 PM Pacific by southern rock [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 564 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

I reckon you folks in Texas got your work cut out for you. This titanic invasion of millions wont get better. America needs to seriously wake up soon.

[4America]

Nam Vet. I truly agree with you on that! Truly nothing will ever be enough.

[LenS]

Zogby? The Arab desperately looking for a distraction from the pathological Arab hatred for Americans? He's using one of his infamous push polls to make Americans think that Mexicans are a bigger threat than Arabs.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I wish you luck.....

[tophat9000]

California was declared an independent nation following the Bear Flag Revolt and then annexed by the USA.

The California Bear Flag

Historic California Bear Flag as photographed in 1890. This flag, raised at Sonoma on June 14, 1846, was in the possession of the Society of California Pioneers at the time of the 1906 Great Earthquake and Fire, and burned during the conflagration.

“The flag was designed by William Todd on a piece of new unbleached cotton. The star imitated the lone star of Texas. A grizzly bear represented the many bears seen in the state. The word, ‘California Republic’ was placed beneath the star and bear. The Bear Flag was replaced by the American flag. It was adopted by the 1911 State Legislature as the State Flag. ”

California pioneer John Bidwell chronicled many of the events surrounding the “Bear Flag Revolt,” and wrote, in 1890:

“Among the men who remained to hold Sonoma was William B. Ide, who assumed to be in command. In some way (perhaps through an unsatisfactory interview with Frémont which he had before the move on Sonoma), Ide got the notion that Frémont's hand in these events was uncertain, and that Americans ought to strike for an independent republic. To this end nearly every day he wrote something in the form of a proclamation and posted it on the old Mexican flagstaff. Another man left at Sonoma was William L. Todd who painted, on a piece of brown cotton, a yard and a half or so in length, with old red or brown paint that he happened to find, what he intended to be a representation of a grizzly bear. This was raised to the top of the staff, some seventy feet from the ground.

[Centurion2000]

Is there are spanish word for "intifada"?

revolucion is the word you are looking for I believe.

[socal_parrot]

The flag was designed by William Todd

William Todd was the nephew of Mary Todd Lincoln.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Thank you, Rintense. Can't believe my fellow Texans aren't on this thread taking major offense. Mexico indeed! Over our dead bodies.

Uh, I think you ought to be taking offense at what's going on in your own state, that is being brought to you by your own government. Over your dead bodies? It may be later than you think.

Texas shantytown poorest in nation

AP | June 7, 2002 | Lynn Brezosky CAMERON PARK, Texas - In many ways, things are better than they were just a few years ago in Cameron Park, a cluster of shacks stretching for miles near the Mexican border. Gunfire no longer erupts at sunset. Families are more likely to stay put when fathers leave for months to pick crops in Michigan or North Dakota. The new pavement means children can walk to the bus on rainy days without having to wrap garbage bags around their shoes. Televisions are powered by electric lines rather than car batteries. There are stoves and refrigerators - some of them even indoors.

Yet national census figures show there is still a long way to go.

Among places with 1,000 households or more, Cameron Park is the poorest spot in America.

It ranks dead last in median per-capita income, at 4,103 dollars a year. About 6,000 people live in the unincorporated community near Brownsville. Many of them are migrant workers and factory hands, and many of them are from Mexico.

"Extreme Third World conditions," said Cameron County Judge Gilberto Hinojosa. "You can pave the streets and put lights and police patrols and parks, but you still have to deal with the fact that many remain poor, and because so many are undocumented, it's difficult to provide them with programs."

Their poverty has been worsened by economic trends that hit the least-skilled hard. The textile industry that employed many with working papers has disintegrated - the Levi's, Haggar and Horace Small factories have all announced closings. Drought has meant fewer agricultural jobs in the region.

In Cameron Park, only 19.3 percent of people age 25 or older have a high school diploma or better. The state average is 72.1 percent.

Some 1,800 colonias, or shantytowns that developed without services like water or sewers, have emerged along the Texas-Mexico border.

They started in the late 1960s and early 1970s with landowners offering mostly poor Mexican immigrants land on easy terms.

Cameron Park was one of the first. In 1968, a plot went for 300 dollars, paid at a rate of 7 dollars a month. By 1977, it was 1,200 dollars, at 20 dollars a month. The plots lacked water, sewers and drainage, but it was a chance to own land. Preliminary dwellings sprang up in a weekend.

In recent years, the plight of the colonias has drawn the attention of county, state and federal officials, who have made campaign stops and passed laws to fix substandard conditions. A constitutional amendment passed in November authorized up to 175 million dollars in state bonds to build or improve roads and drainage. And the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development has offered low-cost financing to build homes.

"I saw firsthand when there's three inches of rain and children don't go anywhere and the water stagnates, bringing mosquitoes and opportunities for disease," Gov. Rick Perry said in supporting the measure.

When social worker Alma Rendon first visited in the early 1990s, the colonia was full of outhouses, and pots and pans collecting rainwater for washing. Now most of the homes have indoor plumbing.

Also since the early 1990s, a program through Texas A&M University has enlisted people in the community to tell neighbors about such services as counseling or vision care. At a community center, families are matched with food stamps and other public assistance programs. There are English classes, and a new computer center is under construction.

It has been against the law since 1995 to sell unimproved land for housing. But the colonias keep on growing, and those who sell their land have profited, with plots now going for as much as 18,000 dollars.

Houses have developed over time into a hodgepodge of styles, some pastel Mexican stucco, others pale brick. Most are in some stage of construction, with half a roof, windows without panes, an uncompleted second floor.

Teresa Serna has been working for 19 years on her dream house - a five-bedroom rose stucco with balconies and elaborate door moldings. It is yards away from the wooden trailer where she lived 30 years ago as a 15-year-old newlywed from Brownsville's sister city of Matamoros, Mexico.

But for every home like Serna's are three or four rusted 20-by-6-foot campers with large families crowded inside.

Several times developers have come to the community, offering to buy the land, raze it all and build new homes. They got laughed away.

"It's part of the mindset they brought with them from Mexico," Rendon said. "A person doesn't have anything unless you have property and your own home."

America seems to be enjoying the ever warming water

[Joe Hadenuf]

And that's the best looking state flag in this entire great nation.

[blackbart.223]

"They can have it and McCain."

I think it would be better if we keep Arizona and just let them have McCain.

[tophat9000]

The (California flag) star imitated the lone star of Texas

I didn't know that myself ..I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

[dsutah]

Well sure I can. But when has P. Buchanan ever run for anything but president? Has he ever tried for mayor, or governor? Has he ever tried to run for anything else? At least G. Bush has a governing record. Has Pat ever won a place in Congress? If he ever got in as president, would he be able to work with the Congress? With Liberals? He's too much of a 'lone wolf' to me.

If he tried with state offices, or as a city office, or Congress, I would be more inclined to agree. Like I said, I do admire him. He is very good at what he does, and can be reasonable when he wants. Or, just maybe we both have different ideas in what we want in a leader.

I just can't stand that rude, 'put down' attitude some of you Bush critics have. It sets my teeth on edge; to have someone put me down, because I support someone. I have my reasons, you have yours. Lets let it at that!

[Joe Hadenuf]

Yes, a small tribute to our Texas brothers.

[Barbara14]

Im a history buff. I know Texas, and I know Texas history, but don't tell a Mexican that America owes him nothing, or you'll like get a bean burrito smashed up side your head.

[Barbara14]

Don't send tributes, send ammo. 308, 270, 25-06, .243, etc.

[Barbara14]

Everytime a Mexican shoots at a US Border Patrolman, we inch closer to the inevitable war that will one day break out and wont' stop until there are a lot of people running back over the border.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Don't send tributes, send ammo

Can't spare any. Were saving it......

[brat]

"What is our next move people, close all the Taco Bells?"

Nah...we'll just have to build relief stations across the deserts so the poor Mexican soldiers won't die enroute to the war.