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1 posted on 06/21/2002 8:05:10 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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2 posted on 06/21/2002 8:05:56 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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There was a line of common decency when once crossed, got one of the parties killed or injured.

EXCELLENT POST Sir Gawain!! An armed society is a polite society!!

3 posted on 06/21/2002 8:12:36 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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A bit over the top, but I like the way Goldberg thinks.

Gotta run now. Promised my little nephew I'd buy him some more BBs today.

6 posted on 06/21/2002 8:21:30 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Sir Gawain
Going off on a tangent for just a moment...

To be consistent, we may have to include nuclear...can't figure out how to stay true to the Constitution while banning government's ultimate weapon.

There is a rational for allowing one to exercise the right to own military weapons, such as true assault rifles, while not allowing nukes. Thornwell Simons posted this essay, The Mystic Nuclear Weapons Exception to the RKBA, which explains why indescriminant weapons like nukes are not protected by the 2nd Amendment. In a nutshell, the right to keep and bear arms implies the right to actually use those arms. But the exercise of one's rights assumes that no one else is denied their rights as a result of your actions. Thus while you have the right to defende "hearth and home" from criminals, you haven't the right to blow up your neighbor's home in the process. Nuclear weapons cannot be used, either in self defense or as part of one's duty to the militia, without harming innocents and depriving them of their rights.

7 posted on 06/21/2002 8:33:49 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Sir Gawain
The advovates of sex education in school justify themselves by saying "They're gonna do it anyway."

We could justify firearms education in school in much the same way.
14 posted on 06/21/2002 9:13:36 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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"Convicted Felons - If a man cannot be trusted with a gun, they shouldn't let him out of prison."

I'm glad someone's finally said this.

16 posted on 06/21/2002 9:31:31 AM PDT by Redbob
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Good article. However, I don't agree with the ideas of letting convicted Felons, and children have firearms. Convicted Felons have a high rate of repeat offenses. This is in effect arming them for the next offense.

Children of today are largely lacking parental guidance, and have no business having firearms without adult supervision. Flame me if you will, but that's how I feel about it.

19 posted on 06/21/2002 10:23:00 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Sir Gawain
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." The preceding quote is from Robert A. Heinlein's 1942 book, Beyond This Horizon in which Heinlein has a brief moment of common sense [or plagiarism, since the same thought is expressed, regarding the manners of the American South, in Alexis DeTocqueville's 1835 book Democracy in America.]

Sounding forth this philosophy is, however, not necessarily conducive to gaining support for permissive arms policies. If there is a serious risk that a cross word to the next person in the supermarket line will get you shot, and therefore you keep mum, anyone with sense would call that terror, not politeness. We tolerate mutual terror when there is nothing better we can do, such as in the balance of global nuclear arms. But as a vision for an individual society it has a certain dis-appeal.

I would hope that rather the realization that one can exercise deadly force with ease would have a sobering effect. When people feel powerless, anger builds.

24 posted on 06/21/2002 3:51:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Sir Gawain
BUMP for later reading...
29 posted on 06/21/2002 4:33:45 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Sir Gawain
Excellent post.

"Shall not be infringed" MEANS shall not be infringed, not just some infringements here and there.

32 posted on 06/21/2002 4:47:02 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Sir Gawain
For the Children?

How about a nice Henry Arms Golden Boy .22?

..and if your family is on a budget, the mini-bolt .22 is nice for $169.00


36 posted on 06/22/2002 10:06:22 PM PDT by TC Rider
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There was a line of common decency when once crossed, got one of the parties killed or injured. Today's 'professional pinkunderwearmen' cringe at the thought of such behaviour, preferring instead the system ...

much the same reaction from today's un-professional brownunderwearmen; Dems and actors...

45 posted on 06/24/2002 5:58:40 AM PDT by packrat01
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56 posted on 06/24/2002 11:55:25 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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