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John Doe #2/Jose Padilla Radio Interview
Here And Now ^ | June 17, 2002 | John Berger (Radio Guest)

Posted on 06/20/2002 1:23:19 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Check out this incredible PBS RADIO INTERVIEW(Real Player) with John Berger who runs the WhoIsJohnDoe2.Com website. Go about five minutes into the show to hear the beginning of this interview.


TOPICS: Announcements; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: johndoeno2; josepadilla; okcbombing
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To: Nancie Drew
What do you think? Close?


41 posted on 06/24/2002 2:28:57 PM PDT by honway
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To: swampfx; Nancie Drew; thinden; Fred Mertz; rdavis84
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/599926/posts?q=1&&page=1

Did We Forget John Doe2? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Another BlueDog post, did he know more than he was willing to say here?

To: golitely

It is a shame someone doesn't post a picture of Hussain Al Hussain on this forum, and then compare his side shot, with the John Doe #2 drawing, which by the way, was given to the artist from a security camera?

Just my two cents on this New Year?

And it is not the Abu Sayef connection you should be looking at, but who Terry Nichols called at the boarding house, and that is a matter of public record in Denver?

Regards----Go Sooners, we beat Arkansas!!!!!!!

Stmoritz

18 posted on 1/1/02 6:02 PM Central by BlueDogDemo

Was this one of the last threads that BlueDogDemo replied to?

42 posted on 06/24/2002 2:46:30 PM PDT by honway
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To: Nancie Drew; OKCSubmariner; thinden; Fred Mertz; rdavis84; glorygirl; Nita Nupress; lawdog; ...
BlueDogDemo
1-1-02

"It is a shame someone doesn't post a picture of Hussain Al Hussain on this forum, and then compare his side shot, with the John Doe #2 drawing, which by the way, was given to the artist from a security camera"

Please see BlueDogDemo's reply I reposted in reply #42.

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I would like to set as a goal for those who have appreciated BlueDogDemo's contributions to Freerepublic that we post a picture of Al Hussaini on this forum, and then compare his side shot, with the John Doe #2 drawing.

If necessary, I will travel to any library or any other source for a photo of Al Hussaini so that it can be posted on FreeRepublic. Any help from anyone on finding the location of a photo of Al Hussaini would be appreciated.

43 posted on 06/24/2002 3:20:11 PM PDT by honway
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To: PJ-Comix
bump
44 posted on 06/24/2002 3:21:07 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Kermit
That's not his real name. That is is fake Muslim name.
45 posted on 06/24/2002 3:22:38 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Fred Mertz
I propose we eliminate the term "conspiracy theorists" from our lexicon. I vote for the term "truth seekers"
Try as you might - you will still end up grasping for and misinterpreting 'straws' a) all the while FORCEFULLY ignoring the obvious, b) ignoring that which has been testified to as the truth in court c) ignoring those aspects of a case which THE FACTS and d) the laws of physics support!

"None are so blind as they who WILL NOT see."

LOL!

46 posted on 06/24/2002 3:29:07 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: PJ-Comix
'manufactured evidence', re-touched sketches and serious ignorance of many exculpating facts - you guys are a riot!
47 posted on 06/24/2002 3:31:42 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: swampfx; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3bf59f5ba9.htm

One Man's View of April 19th, 1995

48 posted on 06/24/2002 3:34:09 PM PDT by honway
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To: PJ-Comix
"John Doe #2/Jose Padilla Radio Interview"

I like your misleading titles too - I FULLY expected an interview with none other than Jose Padilla, but, sadly, no ...

"John Doe #2/Jose Padilla Radio Interview Discussion" I could have bought ...

49 posted on 06/24/2002 3:34:39 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: rwfromkansas
Fine with me, then let's go back to Cassius Clay, Lew Alcindor, etc.
50 posted on 06/24/2002 5:33:13 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: _Jim
I like your misleading titles too - I FULLY expected an interview with none other than Jose Padilla, but, sadly, no ...

Do we have a reading comprehension problem here? Read the FIRST couple of lines of this thread. Does it leave any doubt that the interview is with John Berger? Did you actually sprain your finger clicking your mouse in the naive belief that you would hear Jose Padilla who is in the most secure of detentions?

Check out this incredible PBS RADIO INTERVIEW(Real Player) with John Berger who runs the WhoIsJohnDoe2.Com website. Go about five minutes into the show to hear the beginning of this interview.

51 posted on 06/24/2002 5:58:42 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: _Jim
'manufactured evidence', re-touched sketches and serious ignorance of many exculpating facts - you guys are a riot!

Ahem! I purposely found and posted a sketch of John Doe #2 posted on the CNN website that was placed there BEFORE all the current hubbub. The line on the cheek IS there.

52 posted on 06/24/2002 6:00:54 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: swampfx
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/45/9-11-crogan.shtml

Link

• An FBI sketch of John Doe No. 2 resembled a Samara employee who described himself as a political refugee who had served in the Iraqi army. The TV station did not name him and digitized his photos to hide his identity. Later, Hussain Al-Hussaini came forward and said he was the man identified by several witnesses as possibly being John Doe No. 2, and sued the station and Davis for defamation and libel, saying he could be easily recognized from their coverage. (Al-Hussaini withdrew the state case, and a federal judge dismissed a second case; Al-Hussaini has appealed.)

• In an affidavit, a waitress said McVeigh and someone resembling Al-Hussaini came into her bar on April 15. The waitress said the man she had identified from a KFOR photo lineup “asked me if I was married. He spoke with an accent . . . a Middle Eastern accent.” She also said the FBI had interviewed her, and showed her photos and sketches of possible suspects. The photos were presumably taken from surveillance cameras near the Murrah Building. The FBI took possession of videos recorded by those cameras on April 19, and has refused to release them.

• In an affidavit, Mike Moroz, a worker at Johnny’s Tire Service, a few blocks from the Murrah Building, said that at about 8:30 a.m. on April 19, the day of the bombing, McVeigh pulled up in his Ryder truck and asked for directions. He insisted there was another man sitting in the truck cab. Moroz told Davis he had picked McVeigh out of a live FBI lineup. He also said Al-Hussaini, as shown in one of KFOR’s surveillance photos, could have been the man he saw.

• A patron at the Social Security office at the Murrah Building, who was wounded in the blast, told Davis she was standing 12 feet away when the Ryder truck pulled up. She said she saw McVeigh and a “foreign-looking man with an olive complexion and thick black curly hair poking out of a ball cap” get out of the truck. She also gave this information to the FBI, even describing the insignia on the cap of the person with McVeigh. She identified him as possibly being Al-Hussaini from KFOR’s photos.

Employees and guests at a motel near downtown Oklahoma City reported seeing McVeigh with several Middle Eastern men in the months before the bombing. One of those men was identified from KFOR’s surveillance photos of Samara Properties as possibly being Al-Hussaini. The others were identified as fellow employees of Al-Hussaini. McVeigh reportedly stayed at the motel, under the name of Bob Kling, an alias he had used before, according to the FBI. The witnesses said they had often seen several of the men moving large barrels around in the back of an old white truck that frequently broke down on the lot. The barrels smelled of diesel, they said, an ingredient in the bomb that destroyed the federal building. According to an FBI report, an Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent confiscated the motel’s registration records and logs.

53 posted on 06/24/2002 6:20:31 PM PDT by honway
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To: PJ-Comix; honway; Nita Nupress
John Doe No. 2?

During the June 7 broadcast, Mrs. Davis reported that the possible suspect was a former Iraqi soldier who once served in Saddam Hussein’s army. Sources revealed that he had a tattoo on his upper left arm, which was one of the distinguishing features the FBI references in the official arrest warrant for John Doe 2, which was filed in federal court on April 20, 1995.

A week following the broadcast, the unidentified man in KFOR’s reports, Hussain Al-Hussaini, came forward and granted interviews to local reporters at KWTV and KOCO. He claimed he had been unfairly accused due to racial bias against Arab immigrants. However, the press never addressed the issue of the witnesses who had identified Al-Hussaini in the company of McVeigh and speeding away from the bomb-out Murrah Building seconds after the blast. It was as though those witnesses did not exist.

I was further confounded when KWTV reporter Dave Balut stated, “Hussain says he’s been victimized twice. First by KFOR, then by authorities who refuse to clear him officially. Privately, numerous Justice Department employees in Oklahoma City have confirmed the Channel 4 story is wrong but they say they cannot comment because their bosses in Washington won’t let them.” It was difficult for me to comprehend why the FBI would not officially exonerate this man of any involvement in the bombing if he was innocent. I had witnessed several FBI press conferences in which a string of suspected John Does were cleared of suspicion before a throng of national reporters. Why would this case be treated any differently?

One week later, on June 22, 1995, KFOR fired back, refuting the stories broadcast by KWTV and KOCO point-by-point. Mrs. Davis opened her report by stating, “Tonight, after seeing him (Hussaini Al-Hussaini) again on other stations or in person, our witnesses are more positive than ever he’s the man they saw.” The report also quoted several of Al-Hussaini’s former co-workers who discredited his alibi for the morning of April 19, 1995.

Afterwards, the media wars fell silent. But the flames of controversy were soon rekindled on August 24, 1995, when Al-Hussaini, flanked by a team of lawyers, announced that he had filed a libel lawsuit against KFOR.

During the press conference, a journalist asked Al-Hussaini and his employer, Dr. Samir Khalil, where Al-Hussaini was working the morning of the bombing. That’s when Al-Hussaini’s attorney Gary Richardson interjected, “I’m gonna stop on them giving the exact location.” Once again, I was baffled. Al-Hussaini had openly discussed with KWTV and KOCO he was painting a garage at 2241 NW 31st Street when the bomb detonated. However, several of his fellow employees told reporter Jayna Davis that he was working at 2220 NW 37th Street instead, and reportedly did not arrive until after the bombing.

KFOR reported in April of 1997 that the Plaintiff had voluntarily dismissed the libel lawsuit against the station. However, six months later, it was refilled in federal court on September 22, 1997, just two days after Mrs. Davis testified before the Oklahoma County Grand Jury. Former Oklahoma Representative Charles Key led the petition drive to initiate a grand jury investigation into conspiracy theories surrounding the bombing.

According to press accounts, Mrs. Davis filed a motion to quash her subpoena in order to protect her confidential sources. However, the judge ruled she must testify. Although she said nothing about what she told the grand jury, Mrs. Davis released a brief statement through her attorney in which she debunked conspiracy theorists who believed multiple explosive charges were planted in the Murrah Building and that the government had sufficient warning to prevent the tragedy of April 19. She also expressed her incredulity regarding rumors that John Doe 2 was a government informant who failed to properly deactivate the bomb in a last minute sting operation that had gone awry.

Another two years have passed, and nothing else has been heard from Jayna Davis who has since retired from her career in television news. Mrs. Davis’ attorney, Dan Woska, declined to discuss the Al-Hussaini case. The defense is now waiting for Judge Timothy Leonard to rule upon a pending Motion for Summary Judgment. I recently met with Judge Leonard in his office. He explained it would be inappropriate for him to comment on the lawsuit.

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Late Breaking News (Fall/Winter 1999)

As this article is going to press, a ruling from federal court came down. Judge Timothy Leonard dismissed the defamation claim filed by Hussain Al-Hussaini against KFOR-TV and Reporter Jayna Davis. Although the case seemed to be languishing in the court system, I never doubted that he would rule to dismiss. My knowledge of the case and my observations of Judge Leonard’s character through the years gave me the confidence that one day justice would be served. That day has arrived! -- Pam Boydstun

End of The Forum’s article, Fall/Winter 1999

54 posted on 06/24/2002 6:38:35 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: PhilDragoo; All
Thanks for the information. If anyone recalls seeing
a photograph of Al-Hussaini in a newspaper even once, that information would help in the effort to get Al-Hussaini's
photo on FreeRepublic.
55 posted on 06/24/2002 6:55:01 PM PDT by honway
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To: honway
I just emailed James Patterson at the Indianapolis Star regarding the existence of such a photo. You may wish to email or call him about that or another aspect of the case:

1-317-444-6174

james.patterson@indystar.com

56 posted on 06/24/2002 6:59:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: honway
Is this him? (I just love Google!) Google image search result

If so, you can go directly to the web site to see the photo in its context: http://mindprism.com/__ocbpt/chpt5b.html

57 posted on 06/24/2002 7:25:29 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: honway
If you'll take out the word "Oklahoma" in that Google image search, you'll get more hits. I just don't have time to go to all 70 websites to check them out.
58 posted on 06/24/2002 7:29:05 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Is this him?

Yes. Thank you very much, Nita.

59 posted on 06/25/2002 5:00:26 AM PDT by honway
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To: Nita Nupress; OKCSubmariner

Hussain al-Hussaini

60 posted on 06/25/2002 5:04:45 AM PDT by honway
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